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Jakarta - The distrust caused by the second Boeing 737 MAX 8 crash is spreading. More and more countries to impose flight-ban for the aircraft due to safety concerns. After Australia today, British authority has also banned Boeing 737 MAX flights on its airspace. (airlinerwatch.com) Más...
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Boeing is a fool not to get out in front of this. Act - temporarily ground, provide daily updates, open your analysis for review. Be transparent, or risk losing Trust. As once that's gone, all else does not matter.
Greg77FA I agree, except about grounding the airplane. We all want answers, especially here in the United States. The jet airliner has become, by default, THE mass transportation in the United States. We don't have high-speed rail. We've opted for the airplane. What should be gone is the tight-lipped "no speculation, wait for the report"" defense that the industry tries to hide behind. if Boeing wants to save the 737 MAX, it had best make sure that the airplane doesn't go the way of the Electra.
Once there is a diagnosed system design flaw that caused a fatal accident in any plane as there was in the Lion Air crash, it is irresponsible not to ground the aircraft type until A. It's fixed, or B. there is a reasonable workaround to the problem. I said this after the Lion Air Crash. Now we add another 149 deaths in what most likely will turn out to be the cause of the this accident. Most Countries have now done what needed to be done to prevent this from happening again. Is the US really going to wait for a third fatal accident, before it acts? Not grounding this plane at this point until the problem is resolved, is nothing less then playing Russian Roulette with peoples lives.
Thomas Cain now the 737 MAX is grounded by the FAA and Boeing, after satellite data showed enoiugh track similarities beween Lion and Ethiopian to raise the bar beyond the assumption of pilot error/system misconfiguration. in light of the new data it is altogether appropriate that the MAX is grounded. My objection before to groiunding was that there were as of that writing not enough data to justify it. CNN already thinks it is running the country, and i objected to the latest media mob pile-on. However, in this case the MAX should be thoroughly vetted, the manuals rewritten, the software completely updated, and all pertinent training be accomplished before the MAX is returned to service. This is a real black eye for Boeing. They're going to have to take their lumps.
Why didn't the off duty pilot flying on the Lion bird the day before it's fatal flight tell somebody about it?
He probably did. They supposedly worked on the problem between flights. The next crew had every chance to ask the previous crew about the problem.
Similarities does not mean causation considering that the data of what actually caused the 2nd crash has not been released. This is not to say that they are not caused by the same thing, whether it is pilot error due to lack of training, mechanical malfunction or any other types of causes. It is suspect that there were 2 accidents within a short period of time, but I will still withhold judgement until actual facts are released, not speculation, conjecture and emotional response.
So we'll wait until 140+ or 170+ more people are killed in the next crash. Come on Listen to yourself. The FAA finally did the right thing. At the very least it will lite a fire in Boeing to come up with a workable solution as soon as they can. Remember how fast they solved the Lithium Battery problem on the 787 once it was grounded.
Im not suggesting that we wait for a possible 3rd incident before action is taken. I have no problem with the grounding of the type to determine what the problem is, in fact I think it is a prudent move. I just wont personally join the mob mentality about this until we have facts about what the cause of the most recent accident is AND if it is in fact related.
Well played, using the term mob mentality in place of the correct term majority opinion to make yourself feel better.
Brian is right, until investigators determine cause and/or link both accidents to same fault, fleet must be grounded, no problem. But jumping on the bandwagon going off at Boeing, (who I bet are bending over backwards to assist investigators, they'll want to sort this out quick too) will not make things better. Instead of a sound majority well thought out opinion, all we are seeing here is a Boeing lynch mob.
Boeing knew the problem and is bending over backwards to keep litigation and liability to a minimum like any entity should. They are not bad guys. They just really screwed up.
Doesn't everyone.
