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Indonesian Plane with 54 on board crashes in remote Indonesian region
An Indonesian twin-turboprop aircraft carrying 54 people lost contact with air traffic control on Sunday in the remote, forested eastern Papua region, the National Search and Rescue Agency (BASARNAS) said, with search efforts hampered by failing light as night falls. (www.reuters.com) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Incident summary for IL267 / TGN267 -- http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20150816-0
There seems to be a lot of ATR crashes lately.....
Really there has been a lot of crashes in Asia in general, or from Asian carriers. Not trying to step on toes or anything, but facts are facts.
100% correct. This issue has been around for a long time. Lots of under regulated aircraft , safety standards not up to what they should be, corruption, and older planes taking many short flights (lots of stress on already aged airframes) in a less than ideal climate.
I completely agree. Also, they tend to have bad CRM due to cultural differences. Some, definitely not all, have bad stick and rudder skills, yet they understand systems very well.
Are organisations like FAA and NTSB created for Asians ? And who is keeping FAA and NTSB busy ? Asians ? I wonder !
Please do not bring racialism into technical and professional matters.
Please do not bring racialism into technical and professional matters.
Racial profiling ! Eh ? sic !
As if 'whites' don't cause crashes .
I know I'm stirring a hornet's nest, but check who's started .
As if 'whites' don't cause crashes .
I know I'm stirring a hornet's nest, but check who's started .
Sir, I am not trying to be "racists," and I can easily agree that whites crash planes as well; in fact all peoples crash planes because of simple human error. Yet, there are certain things apart from the ones flying the planes that make Asian Carriers slightly more dangerous. For example in most of these countries is South East Asia, their aircraft are not properly regulated, so MROs can go below minimum standards without being reprimanded by anyone. Also, instead of blaming the people flying the planes it could be more correct to blame the people training the pilots. Like TransAsia Airways 235, the pilots shut down the good engine, so even if they were trained correctly that training did not set in very well which would be both the pilot and the trainers fault, yet random testing of TransAsia showed that 29 other pilots were inadequately trained so I would have to blame the CFI for this one, obviously. Also, some carriers, not all, but some use their aircraft that were designed for long haul low density flying for short haul high density flying for example JAL 123! So it's not the necessarily any single group of people, but it is the A. Regulation standards, B. The pilot training, and C the way they use their aircraft which are all things we could do in any other region or part of the world.
I would have to agree to a point. You cannot generalize these but when a group starts happening over a short period of time, out of a certain region of the world, you have to wonder. Yes, the U.S. 121's have had their share of woes lately but most have been minor incidents and not killing 50+ people at a whack. Regarding keeping the NTSB busy, most of the investigative announcements that have come forth lately have been non aviation issues such as rail or highway.
Pray all's well !