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Pilots Stood Down After Dispute in Cockpit
QANTAS has stood down two pilots who had a heated argument in the cockpit of a Boeing 747 jumbo on the tarmac at Dallas' international airport. Just weeks after Qantas stood down a captain for returning a positive alcohol reading, it has emerged that another captain and a second officer on a 747-400 had an argument over the take-off calculations they should be punching into the passenger jet's computer system. (www.watoday.com.au) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Yes amahran..right on. As joe johnson noted on here "takeoff numbers". Quantas have a history of loading the machines to the edge of the margin. I hope the ATSB is invited to look into this event. In my view, given the evidence of the last 5 years, the management of this airline is questionable on day to day toutine necessities. Example: keeping a record of how much oil an engine is using. You are surprised? Oh yes...understandable.
Well soon Singapore will be doing their maintenance.
Roland- IMHO you have to do the book numbers to see what he airplane CAN do under ideal conditions- then, as with many other things,talk about it. Not anything near Balanced Field, do you take an engine fire flying because it happens at V1
+ 2 kts? Don't forget about that grey computer between your ears!
+ 2 kts? Don't forget about that grey computer between your ears!
Cruise Pilot, IRO,Second Officer. Whatever you call him, he is a pilot who is qualified on the B744 like everyone else on the flight deck.
@Stephen..
Yes. The Captain has complete authority. He is the PIC. That being said, any Captain worth a damn is always receptive to his crews' concerns. Why it degenerated to a shouting match is the question. We may never know the answer to that.
@Stephen..
Yes. The Captain has complete authority. He is the PIC. That being said, any Captain worth a damn is always receptive to his crews' concerns. Why it degenerated to a shouting match is the question. We may never know the answer to that.
Where have you been for the past 20 years? Cockpit management is not with a god in control as in the 50's & 60's... when by the way airplanes were being routinely driven into the ground with a non pro-active ("co-pilot")first officer. Cockpit management is now is a crew concept, with clear delineation of duties, and with redundancy purposely built in. The "complete authority" is in cockpit science, hopefully with a captain that is a good manager of people, procedures and cockpit science. Anything that degrades to a heated argument is a complete failure and rests smack on the captain's shoulders! He should be fired.
@Robert, You hit the nail on the head. Debate yes, but debate to find out where a mistake in calculations were made. Not debate to the point that you almost come to blows. We are human and even Captains make mistakes, especially with mathematics.
Robert, I hear what you are saying and generally agree. I was a co-pilot in the '60's and we didn't "routinely" drive airplanes into the ground... well, besides some of my less spectacular landings! Even back then the good Captains led their crews the way CLR recommends and the bad ones didn't change a lot after attending the class! From my observations, it was generally the weaker Captains who were the most authorotarian.
I'd love to imagine what exactly was being "debated"