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United Airlines going (really) wide with new economy seating
United Airlines is installing unusually roomy new economy cabin seating. United Airlines' aging fleet of widebody Boeing 767s suddenly are taking on a whole new appeal — particularly for travelers stuck in the economy cabin who might like a roomier seat. United said today it has completed the first retrofit of 14 widebody Boeing (NYSE: BA) 767-300 aircraft scheduled for a makeover by the end of 2018. (www.bizjournals.com) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Great. The passengers deserve this. Unfortunately they deserve this even more on the 787-900 scheduled for the really long haul routes. What a glorious aircraft reduced to a flying cattle car with its 3-4-3 seating and narrow seats.
Maybe you are being too generous calling it a cattle car. I call it sardines seating.
3-3-3 to be fair but good point
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According to the NASA Anthropometric source book, page III-92, the 5th, 50th and 95th percentiles of male bideltoid (shoulder) breadth are 17.8, 19.1 and 20.8 inches. This study was from 1978, when people weren't as overweight. https://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=19790003563
So it's not just people being overweight. The median fit man is still slightly wider than these new seats.
So it's not just people being overweight. The median fit man is still slightly wider than these new seats.
While the overweight passenger will spill across the divide between seats, I find the greater discomfort comes from the lack of shoulder room (bideltoid?). I fit in the quoted 95th percentile (21 inches across the shoulders), not because I'm overweight (I'm not), but because I'm just a tall person with a proportional body. My last US transcontinental flight (aisle seat) left me with a sore back because I was unable to keep a straight spine due to the middle seat passenger also having broader than average shoulders. I think an effective solution might be to stagger the seats in a row so there is no direct competition for shoulder space.
I agree with you and I thought this looked to be a pretty good solution to this problem. http://www.thompsonaero.com/cozysuite
No matter what, it is not a ususal behavior for a human body to be in that position for that long. If the litmus test is a "sore back"...maybe we need to put some X-Country Ski machines on the flights...Nordic Track anyone?
These idiots who complain about United need to go tool around central Africa in a DC3 for a bit...
These idiots who complain about United need to go tool around central Africa in a DC3 for a bit...