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No charges against firefighters in Asiana 214 crash
A firefighter responding to a San Francisco plane crash who ran over and killed a survivor covered in flame-retardant foam will not be charged. (www.bbc.co.uk) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
These days there is a lot of law, but very little justice. In this case justice prevailed. In my mind there would have to be some huge extenuating circumstances to charge the driver. I agree with Preach. The legal profession has earned it's present reputation.
How Ya doin Wallace?
Just fine sir. I trust you are the same.
We have too many laws and too many lawyers. Our common sense has been rendered useless.
We have too many laws and too many lawyers. Our common sense has been rendered useless.
Unless we find ourself in need of one, right?
The NEED was created by them. I remember when locally our judges used common sense. Then a law was passed that they had to have a law degree. Common sense "out". Their personal interpretation of the law "in".
Anyway it goes, we have way too many of them, and they are self serving... Just look at congress and our judicial system... Everything is slanted in their favor and we don't need them...
Reminds me of an old joke: "Why has there never been a lawyer never been shark bitten?" - Answer: "Professional Courtesy" and there is a lot of comparisions to it. Our country would be a lot better off with out them.
Reminds me of an old joke: "Why has there never been a lawyer never been shark bitten?" - Answer: "Professional Courtesy" and there is a lot of comparisions to it. Our country would be a lot better off with out them.
None of this is the lawyer's fault.
It's all lawyers' faults. Laws written by lawyers and laws exploited by lawyers.
Not necessarily for justice but for mercenary gain, navigating through loopholes, to gain material wealth to buy fancy cars and extra vacation homes, etc. That a client gain justice or not, is incidental to the goal of greedy accumulation of wealth through any means necessary.
Not necessarily for justice but for mercenary gain, navigating through loopholes, to gain material wealth to buy fancy cars and extra vacation homes, etc. That a client gain justice or not, is incidental to the goal of greedy accumulation of wealth through any means necessary.
Lawyers, in the literal sense do write laws, but they don't originate the proposed bill. When a staffer is drafting the bill (either at the Member’s direction, or to pull something together to propose to the Member), they will send a request to the House or Senate’s Office of Legislative Counsel (OLC or “Leg Counsel”) and be assigned a lawyer to work with on turning the idea into legislative language. Therefore, the only actual writing a lawyer does is sort of editing the actual verbiage.
If you want to know who actually puts pen to paper, it’s nonpartisan staff lawyers who work for Congress who know the law they are affecting inside out. They do that under the direction of office staff for Members of Congress and congressional committees, who vet the bill with outside experts and advocates. Sometimes those advocates (i.e. lobbyists) propose changes in the form of legislative language. But did they write the bill? Probably not.
If you want to know who actually puts pen to paper, it’s nonpartisan staff lawyers who work for Congress who know the law they are affecting inside out. They do that under the direction of office staff for Members of Congress and congressional committees, who vet the bill with outside experts and advocates. Sometimes those advocates (i.e. lobbyists) propose changes in the form of legislative language. But did they write the bill? Probably not.
In California, special interests write legislation text, and shop for a legislator to sponsor the bill- usually with contributions veiled sufficiently to avoid obvious quid-pro-quo.
Yes, lawyers are involved, usually partisans of the monied party.
The Civics classes description of how laws are made, I take with a grain of salt for some reason.
Yes, lawyers are involved, usually partisans of the monied party.
The Civics classes description of how laws are made, I take with a grain of salt for some reason.
Aren't you just saying that... legislators (many of whom are lawyers) and staff who work on proposed laws (many of whom are lawyers) write and vote on laws that then surprise, surprise ... ultimately benefit lawyers.
Didn't I already write that above?
Didn't I already write that above?
No, that isn't what I said. The bills are originated and written and THEN turned over to lawyers who merely put it in legislative verbiage. They aren't writing the bill nor altering the meaning or content. It's more of an editing process.
The most common profession among legislators is lawyers. That laws have created a fantastic payday for lawyers could have nothing to do with lawyers being intimately involved in writing and voting on laws. Lawyers are so pure, and only concerned with justice, and do not desire easy money, and they certainly wouldn't write laws that help them and their colleagues make money when they return to private practice.
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They don't author the laws. I'm out!