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Cargojet Boeing 767 Has To Take Evasive Action When Glider Drifts Into Its Path
A Boeing 767 was forced to break off its approach into Hamilton, Ontario (YHM) after the flight crew spotted a glider in its path. The Cargojet flight had flown from Vancouver, British Columbia (YVR), and was tracking the ILS to runway 12 when the incident occurred. The 767 pilots had no indication that the glider was there until they could see it directly in front of them. The pilots banked the aircraft to the right to avoid a collision. They were then able to re-intercept the localizer and… (www.msn.com) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
A great idea would be if the FAA would allow Gliders to use a Portable ADSB-Out... With that, you set your Transponder Code on the unit... Check Out: https://plutosdr.org/image-carousel-post/ - A very interesting Article.
A major flaw in ADSB is its ancient technology. A $50 cell phone is perhaps a million times more efficient at conveying information than ADSB which uses pulse amplitude modulation inherited from the earliest Identification Friend or Foe schemes. Then, the FAA demanded that the signals be receivable from spacecraft hence the hundreds of watts of power that is required. (There are a dozen more system flaws that aren't crucial to this issue.) Aricraft that were not considered sufficiently in ADSB design are exempt from squitter outside of Class C and B airspace and up to FL100 above them. ADSB is not suitable for their designs, modes of flight, and budgets.
It seems that many of the commentators here, and powered aircraft pilots appear unaware of the numerous aircraft they share the less controlled airspace with. There are manned balloons and unmanned going to 100,000 feet; parafoils up to FL180 and powered parafoils, hang gliders up to FL180, and trikes; ultralight airplanes up to Class E unless equipped; gyroplanes and gyrocopters; skydivers; stratospheric rockets; and gliders below class A. Avoiding parachute jumping areas, gliderports, and even small airports only helps at very low altitudes because these aircraft categories are not restricted to use specific locations. The marked sites simply indicate a higher density of operations at low altitude. Gliders, for safety, fly as high as conditions allow, and travel hundreds of miles from takeoff.
ATC does not know where most of the small and slow traffic is so they can't give avoidance advisories. Only inside Class C, B, and A and maybe some D airspace can one expect managed separation between all categories.
Interestingly, I run PiAware under a Class C, and see about 1 in 4 medium weight aircraft without ADSB-Out. Single engine and large transports are equipped.
It seems that many of the commentators here, and powered aircraft pilots appear unaware of the numerous aircraft they share the less controlled airspace with. There are manned balloons and unmanned going to 100,000 feet; parafoils up to FL180 and powered parafoils, hang gliders up to FL180, and trikes; ultralight airplanes up to Class E unless equipped; gyroplanes and gyrocopters; skydivers; stratospheric rockets; and gliders below class A. Avoiding parachute jumping areas, gliderports, and even small airports only helps at very low altitudes because these aircraft categories are not restricted to use specific locations. The marked sites simply indicate a higher density of operations at low altitude. Gliders, for safety, fly as high as conditions allow, and travel hundreds of miles from takeoff.
ATC does not know where most of the small and slow traffic is so they can't give avoidance advisories. Only inside Class C, B, and A and maybe some D airspace can one expect managed separation between all categories.
Interestingly, I run PiAware under a Class C, and see about 1 in 4 medium weight aircraft without ADSB-Out. Single engine and large transports are equipped.
You're an idiot. If a hobby drone can transmit adsb, I don't see how a glider could not. fuck off with all the excuses. You're endangering people.
You comment is hard to read... There are a lot of Area's where ADSB is not required, but if you are in controlled airspace, then it is. I to run Pi-Aware... everything I see is ADSB. I have not seen a Non-ADSB Out in over a year, maybe 2... If you are in an out lying area, a Transponder is not required if you are not going through Controlled Airspace or flying IFR! The Fact that ADSB is simplistic is a good thing... Smaller Packages and cheaper... Sounds like you want to knock down General Aviation! The problem with that Glider even though legally he was in the write, he really was not where he was supposed to be. If an airliner was there, it was most likely a normal path. I am a firm believer that if they do not have ADSB Out, then they need to stay where they do not need that technology! They should not be at 10,000... Maybe limit gliders without proper radio gear and id gear limit them to 4000 AGL, and away from all IFR and Airway Routes. Seems the Glider is the problem and not the jet!
A year or so ago, on VFR flight following at 3,500' MSL beneath an overcast deck, heading 090, with no ADS-B traffic near by, Houston approach suddenly transmitted, "Mooney XXXX, turn left immediately to 030 degrees! Immediately!" I did so with 45 degrees of left bank because of the concern in his voice! A glider that was not on my panel mounted ADS-B display suddenly appeared about 500 feet away, right in front of me at my altitude!!
I thought, "That's like dodging choppers in the friendly skies of Vietnam!" which I had done many years ago. I later asked approach control if gliders are required to have ADS-B and he said, "No, gliders are not required to have ADS-B." I was in disbelief! Why the heck not? Know where the glider ports are along your route of flight -- and the large parachute areas that extend into Class D airspace, like at KHMI (San Marcos, TX).
I thought, "That's like dodging choppers in the friendly skies of Vietnam!" which I had done many years ago. I later asked approach control if gliders are required to have ADS-B and he said, "No, gliders are not required to have ADS-B." I was in disbelief! Why the heck not? Know where the glider ports are along your route of flight -- and the large parachute areas that extend into Class D airspace, like at KHMI (San Marcos, TX).
https://simpleflying.com/cargojet-boeing-767-glider-incident/