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Rumor has it that Airbus might cooperate with UPS and Amazon for the freighter version of A330neo
Toulouse - Airbus expects Amazon and UPS to include A330neo in their freighter fleets. A full freighter with modern engines could spur the program and spark new competition with Boeing. (airlinerwatch.com) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Amazon doesn't own any aircraft right now. Their B767 fleet is operated by two contract operators Atlas Air & Cargo Aircraft Management/ATI.
they do own there planes, they are just operated by other airlines. Just like Boeing's dreamlifters, they own them but Atlas operates them.
Um sorry but they don't directly own any of the craft..they wet lease aircraft from Atlas Air, ATSG (which they hold a minority interest) and ABX Air.
You are correct sir. But Amazon is looking at purchasing aircraft and operating its own Air Cargo system.
Amazon already operates its own air cargo system. It's called Amazon Air. It was originally Amazon Prime Air nut they removed the Prime because it was causing confusion when talking about the Amazon Prime Air drone delivery system concept. They do not own any of their own craft and have no plans for such right now. Why own when you can wet lease.
They have also built a parcel sort hub in Cinncinati area and fly out of Hebron Kentucky airport.
They have also built a parcel sort hub in Cinncinati area and fly out of Hebron Kentucky airport.
We are getting s bit stuck on semantics here. Amazon will need more plane to complete there own logistics system. Those 40 planes being discussed are for Amazon who will buy some and then in some manner they end up on a lease back program from the operator.
rapidwolve - Amazon will have to Significantly increase its own air operation if they are to ever be able to handle their own shipments as they still use other carriers for the majority of their packages.
Amazon Air is not up to full capacity yet..yes they will have to increase down the road through wet lease..what is being discussed here, and I'm not stuck on semantics, is the fact Amazon does not own any of their craft nor intend to at present time..it's a heck of a lot cheaper to wet lease with known cargo operator(s) for the time being.
rapidwolve - what I have to wonder is how well they will comply with FAA rules. For each of the past several years, they have paid $1 million or more in fines to the FAA for shipping packages that were non-air compliant, with UPS and Fedex. The greatest number of these violations were for undeclared or prohibited flammable liquids. It is one thing to tender such things to other carriers, but when you haul them on your own airline, you may run the risk of losing your operating certificate.
Wet lease? I don't think Atlas or ATG pay for fuel. I may be wrong but pretty sure it is a dry lease at least on the Atlas side (via Titan Aircraft Leasing)