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787 Could Face Temporary ETOPS Ban
As Boeing works to regain permission for its 787 Dreamliner to resume flights, the company faces what could be a costly new challenge: a temporary ban on some of the long-distance, trans-ocean journeys that the jet was intended to fly. (news.yahoo.com) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
The FAA is just saying this as a PR stunt. Most of the public knows nothing about the plane and they would be the first to say "hey I think the plane should be grounded because its unsafe". Most people are uninformed on nearly everything about the Boeing 787 and the media makes it worst with their over sensationalized news reports. This is literally just something so people won't start complaining and saying they are not doing their job to keep everyone safe. The APU battery (which is the problem battery) doesn't even get used in flight, which makes it really hard to believe that ETOPS is threatened. Since the FAA has been called out on "under-regulating" alot of things in the past, they are gonna "over-regulate" the crap out of the Boeing 787 and this case now just to prove a point.
Your story is compelling, but considering ANA had an in-flight smoke indicator, I'm not sure it's accurate.
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Five minutes earlier, at 8:26 a.m., flying at 30,000 feet, an alarm went off in the cockpit signaling that something was wrong with the battery, according to ANA. The alarm was marked “smoke,” according to ANA. No one on board was able to see smoke, according to Mr. Kawamura and ANA. The main battery circuitry is located in a separate compartment beneath the jet’s cockpit. But soon after a “burning like smell” began to waft through the cabin and cockpit, said ANA during a hastily arranged press conference in Tokyo on Wednesday.
“It came from the front. It smelled like burning plastic,” said Mr. Kawamura, a 36-year-old aide to a Japanese politician.
At 8:41 a.m., the pilot called the control tower at Takamatsu airport, a local airport located on the southern island of Shikoku, according to the transportation ministry. He requested for permission to make an emergency landing — about 400 miles from Haneda International Airport in central Tokyo, the flight’s scheduled final destination.
Then the pilot’s voice streamed through the cabin intercom. “There is smoke coming from the aircraft. But there is nothing abnormal with the mechanics. We will make an emergency landing at Takamatsu airport,” said the pilot, according to Mr. Kawamura.
Courtesy of Kenichi Kawamura
The pilot of the All Nippon AIrways flight that made an emergency landing in Takamatsu on Jan. 16 talked to passengers after everyone had safely evacuated from the aircraft via emergency slides.
After the announcement, “you could feel the mood was uneasy,” said Mr. Kawamura. “Everyone pushed down their fears and sat in their seats in silence.” The cabin crew moved around briskly but with calm.
Six minutes later at 8:47 a.m. the plane landed safely. When the emergency door flew open Mr. Kawamura said he could see a burst of white smoke, but didn’t know where it came from. Seven of the plane’s eight emergency evacuation slides shot out of the exits.
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Five minutes earlier, at 8:26 a.m., flying at 30,000 feet, an alarm went off in the cockpit signaling that something was wrong with the battery, according to ANA. The alarm was marked “smoke,” according to ANA. No one on board was able to see smoke, according to Mr. Kawamura and ANA. The main battery circuitry is located in a separate compartment beneath the jet’s cockpit. But soon after a “burning like smell” began to waft through the cabin and cockpit, said ANA during a hastily arranged press conference in Tokyo on Wednesday.
“It came from the front. It smelled like burning plastic,” said Mr. Kawamura, a 36-year-old aide to a Japanese politician.
At 8:41 a.m., the pilot called the control tower at Takamatsu airport, a local airport located on the southern island of Shikoku, according to the transportation ministry. He requested for permission to make an emergency landing — about 400 miles from Haneda International Airport in central Tokyo, the flight’s scheduled final destination.
Then the pilot’s voice streamed through the cabin intercom. “There is smoke coming from the aircraft. But there is nothing abnormal with the mechanics. We will make an emergency landing at Takamatsu airport,” said the pilot, according to Mr. Kawamura.
Courtesy of Kenichi Kawamura
The pilot of the All Nippon AIrways flight that made an emergency landing in Takamatsu on Jan. 16 talked to passengers after everyone had safely evacuated from the aircraft via emergency slides.
After the announcement, “you could feel the mood was uneasy,” said Mr. Kawamura. “Everyone pushed down their fears and sat in their seats in silence.” The cabin crew moved around briskly but with calm.
Six minutes later at 8:47 a.m. the plane landed safely. When the emergency door flew open Mr. Kawamura said he could see a burst of white smoke, but didn’t know where it came from. Seven of the plane’s eight emergency evacuation slides shot out of the exits.
While I do not doubt what you are saying there is still a Public Relations side to all of this. It was made apparent when Boeing received a letter from the NTSB basically chastising them for their press conference in Japan.
When one wants to become a party to an NTSB investigation, you sign an agreement that requires all parties to not comment on any part of that investigation. That agreement has been around for decades, in all modes of transport incidents that NTSB has jurisdiction over.
Not too many years ago, a Union official commented on one facet of an NTSB investigation, and was removed as a party with as little as a bat of an eye. They are quite serious about their processes and procedures. You either follow their lead, or get out.
It is not PR, it is about the credibility of any investigation or finding of the Board, and it's Congressional charter (read law).
Not too many years ago, a Union official commented on one facet of an NTSB investigation, and was removed as a party with as little as a bat of an eye. They are quite serious about their processes and procedures. You either follow their lead, or get out.
It is not PR, it is about the credibility of any investigation or finding of the Board, and it's Congressional charter (read law).
ETOPS are always given to a plane that has PROVEN in REALITY to be EXTREMELY RELIABLE. If you can say with dry eyes that the 787 is a) proven in reality, and b) to be extremely reliable; than I wonder if you forgot to take your pills this morning
Your don't need ETOPS from the U.S to Japan or Europe, you can fly where you are never 2 hours away from an airport or land, the east coast to Japan is mostly over land anyways.