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AF 447 fell so fast the oxygen masks did not deploy. Flight recorders in good shape.
Air France 447 fell so fast the oxygen masks did not have time to deploy. It looks like they will be able to get all the information from the flight recorders. Many bodies are still in fuselage but it is miles deep in the ocean and recovery is a very long process. (www.cnn.com) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
I think the descent rate would bring the speed well over 500 kts on the stall,fall. We will know more info in a few weeks MAYBE, at any rate we have projected about as far as we can given the info we have. The main point is to keep this from happening again, maybe one day we will quit using tombstone technology and start regulating without regard to politics and cost!
Egypt air was around that alt to I think or maybe FL360-370
Al Wow those are 2 very different reports.
Which descent is true though, figure this on the quick descent> at that rate if true from Aprox FL350 or ~ 6.68 miles, to crash in 2 minutes I'm calculating a rate of descent at aprox 200 MPH if ~17000ft/min [or about 3.2 miles/min with a tachymeter] . You are right though, if that were true at that rate of descent would have G's but if I did not miscalculate at that speed it would seem more as a stall???[spin}. You know Egypt air 767 when it made it's final plunge, they broke Mach 1.0 in I think it was around 30 sec the 2nd dive. Hope to see a update soon I will try to check in the AM tomorrow PS> hope I did'nt miscalculate or CRK this one
Which descent is true though, figure this on the quick descent> at that rate if true from Aprox FL350 or ~ 6.68 miles, to crash in 2 minutes I'm calculating a rate of descent at aprox 200 MPH if ~17000ft/min [or about 3.2 miles/min with a tachymeter] . You are right though, if that were true at that rate of descent would have G's but if I did not miscalculate at that speed it would seem more as a stall???[spin}. You know Egypt air 767 when it made it's final plunge, they broke Mach 1.0 in I think it was around 30 sec the 2nd dive. Hope to see a update soon I will try to check in the AM tomorrow PS> hope I did'nt miscalculate or CRK this one
Robert we have two diff reports one says 15 min the other 2 or so min.until they hit the water. We have been on the 15 min. one if indeed the plane came down in only 2 min. then it stalled, fell off on a wing therefore the quick descent but does not really compute with the pilots talking in the cockpit as reported if nothing else other than the G force enacted on them at a descent rate of over 17,000' per min.
Al:
Rob please
I can understand what your saying now, I was thinking nose up attitude, into the water, that is what my brain was jogeling with, but in what you are saying, yes that is totally clear my friend, sorry at first i did not see that. thanks
Rob please
I can understand what your saying now, I was thinking nose up attitude, into the water, that is what my brain was jogeling with, but in what you are saying, yes that is totally clear my friend, sorry at first i did not see that. thanks
Robert, here we go: More than likely the plane would have hit the water in a8 to 10 degree nose down and would not have bounced but submarined into the water, still an abrupt stop by any means therefore the condensed wreckage. by hte time they heard the words pull up, pull up, terrain and understood it with everything else they were dealing with at that rate of descent that would have given them about 3 to 5 seconds to initiate a climb and no more than 12 seconds to start climbing and remember in their minds they did not know what to believe. Robert it was just way to many task they were being directed to accomplish by the flight computer thrown at them with precious little time to comprehend, disseminate, prioritize and accomplish in the short time they had left to save the plane even if they did not recognize the A/P was off I believe that is a failure of the complexity of the flight computer program warning alerts and the lack of training especially with so many prier incidents involving the pitot tubes.Robert really it will become more evident if they release all the info from the boxes which I doubt.Airbus wants the pilots to take the heat and the French want Airbus to take the heat. Here I go pitting myself up for crk112 to chastise me: Pilots failure to fly the plane or recognize the A/P off, the French for not demanding the replacement of the pitot tubes, the airline itself for the same thing plus proper training and Airbus for not demanding the immediate replacement and training and for not redesigning the program to help prevent in info overload.