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Global Airlines’ Unusual Airbus A380 Ferry Flight

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The aircraft crossed the Atlantic Ocean with its landing gear down. (airlinegeeks.com) Más...

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JudithFey
Judith Fey 2
Back in 1989, I was a passenger aboard Thai Airways on a flight from Kathmandu to Bangkok. We took off, began climbing and then leveled off - then again began climbing, and again leveled off. A voice on the loudspeaker told us the landing gear had failed to retract. They were going to circle while dumping fuel and then return to Kathmandu. After landing successfully, the guys with the sledge hammers came out to the plane. We stayed on board. Bang, bang, bang on the landing gear. The powers that be seemed satisfied because again we were told via loudspeaker that we were going to take off and determine if the landing gear would retract. If it did, we had enough fuel to fly to Bangkok. If it did NOT, we were going to fly to Calcutta. The whole time I was screaming inside my head, "Leave the effing landing gear alone!!" Of course my greatest fear was it would retrack and then get stuck. We DID make a successful landing in Calcutta thus leading to another hair raising story for another time, but I guess we flew from Kathmandu to Calcutta with the landing gear down.
Bertelchen
Bertelchen 1
It seems they just followed the manual:

https://safetyfirst.airbus.com/app/themes/mh_newsdesk/pdf/news-parking-and-storage-return-to-service-summary-letter.pdf, page 15

There is a third option besides lifting the plane with a jack but without details.
jenile
Lee Enderlin 1
Okay, I give up. Wouldn't a successful landing prove to be pretty much the same as passing the tests?
bchandl13
Brian Chandler 2
No. With it sitting in the desert that long the gear needs replaced. Also the concern is if they can even get it retracted would it come back down when they land. It's about do the moving parts, seals, circuits and the whole system work still to take it up/down and not "does the gear still hold the plane"... if that was the concern it wouldn't have gone flying
arfadaily
arfadaily 1
I wouldn't have thought so, no. The aircraft has been standing on the gear for however long in the desert, so is probably pretty solidly down and locked. However, without safe testing prior to leaving the ground, there's no telling what might happen when an attempt was made to retract the gear, or worse when it came time to deploy it on the way to landing. And even worse if it was unable to do a gravity deploy in the case of a powered deployment failure
chugheset
chugheset 1
What is the VLE speed on that aircraft?
NX211
NX211 1
No one east of the Mississippi had the facilities to do these tests?
bchandl13
Brian Chandler 3
Probably not because the A380 is an uncommon bird for the US. Also, from what I have read elsewhere this article gets it wrong. The plane was due for a complete gear replacement based on the time it spent in the desert not just testing, and it was probably easiest to ferry it back to their facilities to accomplish this.
bchandl13
Brian Chandler 3
And to add: The need for replacement meant that they weren't allowed to retract the gear, and so it stayed down in the reposition flight. FWIW, I have seen the guys at Nomadic Aviation do this kind of flight too. Much shorter but they kept the gear down the whole time. Even tagged out the gear lever as a reminder.
ravanviman
hal pushpak 1
https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/9HGLOBL/history/20240430/2320Z/KMHV/L%2045.69329%20-73.98920

https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/9HGLOBL/history/20240501/0836Z/CYMX/EGPK
KennyFlys
Ken Lane 0
I'm surprised it was able to fly as fast as it did, gear down.
rdgc
robin cooper 3
RR engines!!!!
bentwing60
bentwing60 -4
click bait!
arfadaily
arfadaily 7
Not the most blatant example of 'clickbait' that I've seen. Secondarily, maybe, but primarily an interesting story of how the airctaft has to be flown slower to avoid damage to the gear, and the corresponding detrimental effect that has on the aircraft's fuel efficiency, impacting its ability to do this journey in one go
NeilPostlethwaiteItsAllBroken
I think it’s arguable that the hugely long gear down flight may have been more detrimental than as best as maintenance/checks and normal retraction.

What a waste of fuel too.

Jacks to the long term storage facility instead ?!
waterkeepsmealive
Nunya Bizness 5
Figure it this way. The flight was 4 hours longer than it would normally take. 4 hours of extra fuel burn. Fully loaded A380 burns average of apprx 5000gal/hour. 20K/Gals at avg of $6/gal is $120,000. I'd think this is probably a much cheaper option than attempting to run the test there, run into an issue, and then have to pay the costs to try and fix it outside of their own mx facilities. Ferrying with gear down makes more sense. Empty aircraft also, so I doubt the fuel burn was anything near 5000 gal/hr.
arfadaily
arfadaily 3
That, I would have thought, would have been the better option for sure. I cant imagine tho that no one would have thought of that ...
johntaylor571
John Taylor 2
Jacks for every type aircraft and in quantity to do full retractions? And you talk about wasted money on fuel...
RECOR10
RECOR10 2
Did you have to buy the gas? Some idiot said that to me just this AM in a freaking Publix parking lot...he was driving (what I have to assume is his wifes) Prius as I pulled in with an AMG GT. See Neil, what others do with their money and resources is NOT your business...(or the idiot in the Prius).
rmchambers
rmchambers 2
One would have to compare the added cost of all that fuel to the cost of flying that bird somewhere in the US (or Canada) that has the facilities to lift it and do those tests. Carriers have those facilities for their own aircraft but would they allow a non-company owned asset on them? Seems with fuel prices being what they are a cheaper solution could have been found but perhaps such a new company doesn't have the connections to make something like that happen.

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