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A British Airways pilot sentenced to 12 years in prison for misleading authorities about his flight experience

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LONDON — A pilot has been jailed for fraud to get the job with British Airways. The British Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) said he lied about his flight hours to secure a position at the British Airways subsidiary BA CityFlyer and former Irish regional operator Stobart Air. (www.airlinerwatch.com) Más...

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jkeifer3
Joe Keifer 9
Catch me if you can............... Frank Abagnale
CDBrozovich
CDBrozovich 5
My instructor once said to me, "Don't fudge in your flight time or your logbook, you will only hurt yourself..or someone else in the process."
williamscottrobertson
I was always told, if you say you have a thousand hours in type, you better fly like you have a thousand hours in type.
fweinrebe
Fritz Weinrebe 9
The header in FlightAware say "YEARS" but the article says "MONTHS". Looks like a typo.
strickerje
strickerje 4
Yeah I noticed that too; I was going to comment that 12 years seems excessive even given the risk, but 12 months sounds much more reasonable, if not fairly lenient. I'm not sure if criminal prosecution is common here in the U.S. for getting a job under false pretenses; I usually only hear of civil penalties.
mbrews
mbrews 1
Yes,the headline error obviously by original poster Tom Novak. In the body of the linked article, the story clearly says 12 MONTHS.
Zorchin
Editor: the article clearly says 12 MONTHS in several places. Change your link to match.
jeamiell
Jeam Ost 3
Editor is not reading.... LOL !!
21voyageur
Dan Chiasson 3
Editor does not exist!
jwaclawski
John Waclawski -1
The editor posts then disappears. Unless it's something over the top, a simple little graphical error is nothing but blip to them.
jwaclawski
John Waclawski 1
Sorry everyone...a ** grammatical ** error, not graphical error. My wife was bugging me whilst I was trying to comment. :)
SamHobbs
Sam Hobbs 1
Tom Novak was last online about 5 hours before now; Tom could have fixed it, or if FligthAware does not allow the fix, then explained so.
outward
Jimmy Robinson 8
Lrt's see, someone wants a job flying an airplane but doesn't have the hours. Heck, just lie about it. Never mind the fact that you'll be dealing with hundreds of human lives when you fly, maybe even thousands over the course of time. That doesn't matter, just getting the job does. Good thing he was caught.
RexBentley
Rex Bentley 7
Heck everybody knows it's okay to lye, just ask any politician or student.
21voyageur
Dan Chiasson 6
or ask a teacher how to spell "lye" (hint , , , it starts with L I _ )
1840cc
gary garton 4
It seems all parties are to blame as no one checked this, or the other details on his CV at the time.
soarby007
brent young 6
The head of HR should have gotten the same sentence. How do they hire someone not knowing this.
jkeifer3
Joe Keifer -1
An act of affirmative action? Remember the FAA tried its hand at hiring prospective ATC specialists based upon skin color and socioeconomic status. Or maybe filling quotas.
xtoler
Larry Toler 1
I remember that quite well. I was pretty young at the time. My dad was offered to train for ATC. Instead, as a GS4 supply specialist for the US Army, he wound up training as a civilian logistics specialist at Red River Army Depot and moved up from there. He retired quite a few years back as Deputy to the Commandant of the Quartermaster School at Ft Lee, VA. Not too shabby as a civilian. Pissed a lot of high ranking active duty Army officers off. Even better, when Dad was a buck private, he did his AIT at the Quartermaster school at Ft Lee, around the time I was born.
TrainLover1998
Ryan Lorefice 3
supposed to be months not years
CombatGuido
Guy Rovella 3
Or click bait.
sgbelverta
sharon bias 3
The wheels of justice were too slow. This happened in 2016-2018 and he didn't get sentenced until 2022? That's longer than most murder investigations and trials in the US, which is saying something.
Forensics1
Charles Adams 5
I beg to honorably differ with you. I am a digital forensics expert witnesss with more than 2 decades of courtroom experience. Many, many factors can intervene to slow lady Justice to a crawl. Maneuvers by the prosecution, the defense, clients that fire and hire new attorneys, recent precedent changing rulings, illnesses of key people on either side of the court, changes in plea deals, and more. Besides all of thos possibilities COVID 19 moved in and shut down the legal system for years. We are just now dealing with crimes committed In 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019and following. Too many trials and too few active courts. We (meaning our team of attorneys and experts) just got a man charged.with capital murder in 2017, and immediately incarcerated, found not guilty in October of 2021. He was poor, never could make bail, and sat there for almost 4 years. That is more common than one knows. Faulty investigations also play a role in delayed justice. There are a significant number of those too. I hope this helps you understand some of the problems. Thank you.
patpylot
patrick baker 3
gee, if it were years he wouold be too old upon release to start accumulating training hours enough to obtain commercial and instrument and atp tickets for real. Question: how did he perform on the simulator or check rides? maybe he didn't need flight hours, just courage and imagination. How do the one-pilot-only-needed morons react to this guy?
ghstark
Greg S 4
They'll say: you're right, we don't need any pilots at all!
GPSSerbia
GPSSerbia 3
I'll give him centuries!
21voyageur
Dan Chiasson 5
Same amateur reporting. It's 12 months, not 12 years (144 months). Common FlightAware, how about a bit of editorial effort!
emlouise
Em Fairley 2
Same amateur commenting. It's come on, not common. How about a bit of editorial effort, Dan!
rebomar
rebomar 2
I don't think FlightAware posted this squawk. It says the poster is Tom Novak, upper right corner. It's tom who can't read and retweet. Not 12 years, only 12 months. Sorry Tom.
Balmoral
David Luddy 2
Who is watching the gate. This character must be quite talented. Moving up through the status list and
know one reviews his qualification documents. Seems to me the British CAA as well as British Airways and
It’s subsiidiary should be held accountable for this potentially embarrassing if not deadly oversight.
alexa320
alex hidveghy 1
Good question!
A person I know that knew this man described him as a “likable Jack the lad”!!
redseaconsulting
Robert Mack 2
Chain of error on many levels: HR, background check and work history, reference checks, the interview, simulator, checkride, line check, ongoing evaluations….
Balmoral
David Luddy 1
I have been a licensed commercial pilot since 1969. I have seen 2 other cases of hour fraud. It eventually
caught up with one of them and cost him and check Pilot their lives, along with a destroyed aircraft. Enough said.
silvanocerboneschi
unbelivable, nobody check his cv and pilot fligt book?
websanity
Gez T 1
Definitely months!
darjr26
darjr26 1
This was and maybe still is happening. It’s referred to as “parker pen” time.
a4mer49er
John Macaulay 1
Nice proofreading; 12 months not 12 years! Onto another topic, no one from Boeing has spent a day incarcerated for the pervasive fraud that kept the Boeing Max 8 in the sky.
21voyageur
Dan Chiasson 1
top-down vs bottom-up improprieties are handled very differently! Money talks.
21voyageur
Dan Chiasson 1
I would not have thought that England would ever be included in the topic of falsified licenses a la Pakistan and India. Perhaps more prevalent than thought.
alexa320
alex hidveghy 1
It’s an extremely badly written article with many omissions. You could not tell it was a false or forged license. Sounded like he falsified his logbook (called padding) and his CV. He may well have had a CPL or ATPL.
localartist
12 months in prison not 12 years
Bianchi4me
Bianchi4me 1
Really hoping we can get a few dozen more people pointing out the same typo over and over and over again. "Look Marge! I found something wrong on the internet. Now's my chance!"
DiverDoc
Sandy Murray 1
ALWAYS check references!!
thans625
Always complaining
TeddSteele
Tedd Steele 1
https://flightaware.com/squawks/link/1/7_days/popular/88459/A_British_Airways_pilot_sentenced_to_12_years_in_prison_for_misleading_authorities_about_his_flight_experience

This is the link....
fmacphee
Fraser MacPhee 1
What a shame he had no illegal drugs on him. Would have only gotten 3 months.
flybd5juan
Juan Jimenez 0
So who at BA is being thrown in jail for not doing their proper due diligence and putting people's lives at risk as a result?
harrydanik
harrydanik 0
maybe it's my "old man" manager viewpoint
but, did anyone think they may have wanted to fire him and
his logged hours were a simple reason to do it.
operator's do this if in a pinch & necessary, if caught, they just say clerical error.
Interesting times we live in......don't you think?
Bianchi4me
Bianchi4me 1
Kinda doubt they had the guy arrested, put on trail, convicted, sentenced to prison and thereby created a hugely embarrassing world wide news story that calls into question their company's safety culture... in order to "easily" fire someone. Seems a lot more reasonable that this guy was dangerously incompetent and they were afraid of him lying his way into a job somewhere else if they didn't report him.
mikeeadie
Michael Eadie 0
Unreasonably harsh for “white collar “ violation. Extensive community service-make the punishment benefit the community instead of costing the community.
mhawke1
Michael Hawke 1
Not a “white collar” violation when it puts lives at risk.
alexa320
alex hidveghy -1
Flight aware is getting worse in its reporting with typos and lots of inaccuracies as well as omissions.
For example, at what stage was he found out? During the due diligence? After being hired? Flying the line, what?
How about some details?
How about some proof reading? Do you need a copy writer?
mhawke1
Michael Hawke 1
Flight aware doesn’t do the reporting. This is a comment section. Someone else posted a link to a story on another website, which is what all these items on Flightaware are.

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