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Two Croatian Canadair aircraft putting out fires in Israel
Two Croatian Canadair aircraft continued on Saturday to put out widespread forest fires in Israel which threaten houses and, despite difficulties in taking water from the Mediterranean Sea, flew until dusk on Friday. (eblnews.com) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
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full of hate zippy, pretty sad. And Trump is on record for supporting Israel against the Islamic radical states.
See also the squawk at:
http://flightaware.com/squawks/view/1/24_hours/popular/58099/Water_supertanker_lands_in_Israel
http://flightaware.com/squawks/view/1/24_hours/popular/58099/Water_supertanker_lands_in_Israel
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When your small country's burning up, you'll do whatever it takes to save it....and the Israelis' are pretty good @ doing what ever it takes.
20,000 poinds of water every hour and 1600 pounds per drop via CL-415 every 15 minutes makes a good case for using both at the same fire.
Sorry, meant 20,000 us gal and 1600 us gal for each plane?
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One problem with this fire (any many like it) are the high winds which fan the flames and carry burning embers hundreds or thousands of feet downwind. The Super Scoopers don't have the water/retardant carrying capacity to create a effective fire break -- they are great for making tactical drops and attacking hotspots, but they lack the capacity to lay down a half-mile swath of Phos-Chek.
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Wilbur you know not of which you speak..
"So we are not arguing - all I am suggesting is that if more fire service organizations had access to the Canadair amphibs, they could, as you note, make "tactical" drops.
Obviously, if done early on, the fire would be stopped BEFORE it became a monster."
That kind of thinking sure as hell didnt help us in Fort Mac...all it takes is a small shift in wind and those fires turn on you in an instant, becoming said monster, tactical fast drops or not
"So we are not arguing - all I am suggesting is that if more fire service organizations had access to the Canadair amphibs, they could, as you note, make "tactical" drops.
Obviously, if done early on, the fire would be stopped BEFORE it became a monster."
That kind of thinking sure as hell didnt help us in Fort Mac...all it takes is a small shift in wind and those fires turn on you in an instant, becoming said monster, tactical fast drops or not
Wilbur: It sounds like you're pretty familiar with amphib ops. Do you fly one yourself?
For a Wiki entry it's quite informative on tanker types & capabilities. If you scroll down to the tactics and capabilities portion there is this....
Some firefighting aircraft can refill their tanks in mid-flight, by flying down to skim the surface of large bodies of water. One example is the Bombardier CL-415. This is particularly useful in rural areas where flying back to an airbase for refills may take too much time. In 2002 an Ontario CL-415 crew was able to refill 100 times within a 4-hour mission, delivering an astounding 162,000 US gallons (613,240 l) or 1,350,000 pounds (612 t) of water on a fire near Dryden Ontario.[citation needed] { June 1, 2002 Dryden fire # 10 Tanker #271 civil ident C-GOGE }
I flew this type for 12 seasons. I can tell you this is unusual but is common enough around the world. This represent the maximum performance under ideal circumstances with an adjacent water source. This works out to a drop every 2 minutes. Ferry time to and from the fire was 20 min each way a total of 200 minutes were spent in fire mode.