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Middle East Probe finds crashed Emirates airliner tried to go around
The findings released Tuesday in a 28-page report by the United Arab Emirates’ General Civil Aviation Authority. (www.washingtonpost.com) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
"In thrust we trust"
Yes, playstation era pilot's... God help us all... The computer's in the flightdeck's are becoming more inteligent that the pilot's flying them...
No matter how hot one comes into land I've never seen a successful go-around at idle thrust. Thinking about it with a go-around attitude, max drag of gear in transit, and already sinking is a tad late. This was another crew in over their heads on the operation of automated systems and basic airmanship.
Is that common to retract the landing gear at 85' on a go around? Seems like a few hundred feet would be safer?
Everyone is missing the one major call out on a go around or takeoff: "Positive Rate, Gear Up" When a positive rate of climb is achieved (not barely, but250fpm+) THEN the gear is retracted. Not when full power is applied, not solely to reduce drag. If you don't have positive rate, you don't raise gear because you're still going down. 777 is fully capable of a max weight go-around on a single engine. Like the 757, she is grossly overpowered, you just have to ask for it.
Remember you want to eliminate as much drag as possible so you can get some speed, the gear is one of the biggest things creating drag on a plane
There is not an aircraft made that cannot go-around with its gear down. Gear position is no where near as critical as verifying TO/GA power. On many aircraft drag is actually increased significantly during retraction as doors open and trucks rotate for stowage. Why this crew elected to move the gear and not the power is unfathomable. As with Asiana 214, because of a crasworthy airplane, this crew was very furtunate that loss of life was minimal.
Funny, I was going to comment then I read yours and we would have said the same thing. I do remember in some early sim training years ago, that the instructors set the scenario up of high hot and heavy and blew up a engine just after V-1, now we were already at full power but if you retracted the gear before a positive rate, the aircraft settled back down due to increased drag from the body and wing doors and there was nothing you could do about.
Me too. At our carrier the procedure is "Going around (TOGA button), flaps 20, CHECK THRUST, Positive rate, gear up, Check missed approach altitude..."
Obviously the aircraft can't climb without climb thrust...
Obviously the aircraft can't climb without climb thrust...