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FAA: Go away!
If you are a pilot, you have likely heard the unofficial slogan of the FAA, "We're not happy until you're not happy." Like most idioms, there is often a bit of truth to this. Any pilot who has crossed a FAA inspector knows how miserable they can make your life. Pilots have very few rights as an airman certificate is considered a 'privilege', rather than a right. However, these injustices hardly touch on the significance behind the FAA's motto. It is much more…Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
I'm a thinkin' that DESIGNEE is just another name for consultant or just another cottage industry that has spawned under the good ole boy system.
Dear Jerry,
As I am an FAA Ops Inspector I take exception to some of your comments. I spent 25 years flying On Demand charter in everything from a Baron to DC-3, Beach 18, Caravan, Metroliner, etc. I was also Chief Pilot for two charter companies and a Check Airman for 3 companies. When I came to the FAA I decided I would really try to help pilots rather than hammer them. What we don't is when pilots decide they dont have to follow the rules and this ultimately puts the pilot and the public in danger. There is nothing worse than going to an accident site where there are deaths or serious injuries. I will tell you that of the 4 Ops Inspectors in my office we strive to help people. Something that was told to me is that when you become a member of our club you have to play by our rules. I will admit that there are Inspector out there that are of the Old School and will try to accumulate as many violations on pilots as they can. But for the most part, of the Inspectors that I have met that come from different parts of the country are highly professional. Oh, an by the way, the cost of flying has gone up due to 3 things, inflation in fuel cost and product cost, and product liability. Product liability being the driving force. You are right about one thing. We do have a lot of designees. The truth is we (FAA) could not possibly meet the demands of the public without designees. Because of bureaucracy you cant imagine how much time is being spent in front of a computer just entering data in the databases. Oh, by the way, you cant get into the FAA unless you have a commercial/instrument and a CFI and they prefer a minimum of 2000 hrs.
As I am an FAA Ops Inspector I take exception to some of your comments. I spent 25 years flying On Demand charter in everything from a Baron to DC-3, Beach 18, Caravan, Metroliner, etc. I was also Chief Pilot for two charter companies and a Check Airman for 3 companies. When I came to the FAA I decided I would really try to help pilots rather than hammer them. What we don't is when pilots decide they dont have to follow the rules and this ultimately puts the pilot and the public in danger. There is nothing worse than going to an accident site where there are deaths or serious injuries. I will tell you that of the 4 Ops Inspectors in my office we strive to help people. Something that was told to me is that when you become a member of our club you have to play by our rules. I will admit that there are Inspector out there that are of the Old School and will try to accumulate as many violations on pilots as they can. But for the most part, of the Inspectors that I have met that come from different parts of the country are highly professional. Oh, an by the way, the cost of flying has gone up due to 3 things, inflation in fuel cost and product cost, and product liability. Product liability being the driving force. You are right about one thing. We do have a lot of designees. The truth is we (FAA) could not possibly meet the demands of the public without designees. Because of bureaucracy you cant imagine how much time is being spent in front of a computer just entering data in the databases. Oh, by the way, you cant get into the FAA unless you have a commercial/instrument and a CFI and they prefer a minimum of 2000 hrs.
Thank God ! I get to read views from the 'other' side.
I am primarily anti establishment, striving forever for perfection in the system. What we all have to understand is that in any system not all are bad or good.
Also, that any and every system moves on the basis of good people. And this mix of good/bad decides the rate of progress and mobility and growth of the system.
Can any system move or progress with a majority of bad people, those who want to put a spanner in the works ? No !
Be it USA or China or UK or India or Somalia or Uganda ! Or any part with in !
Three cheers to you my friend Tom Dugger.
:-)
I am primarily anti establishment, striving forever for perfection in the system. What we all have to understand is that in any system not all are bad or good.
Also, that any and every system moves on the basis of good people. And this mix of good/bad decides the rate of progress and mobility and growth of the system.
Can any system move or progress with a majority of bad people, those who want to put a spanner in the works ? No !
Be it USA or China or UK or India or Somalia or Uganda ! Or any part with in !
Three cheers to you my friend Tom Dugger.
:-)
Within a system governed by laws lawyers, of which you acknowledge being one, are by definition part of the system. Being an anti-establishment lawyer seems oxymoronic.
Mr. Duggar appears to reflect a slilghtly different facet of the same side, rather than being on the 'other side'
Mr. Duggar appears to reflect a slilghtly different facet of the same side, rather than being on the 'other side'
Please please my friend joel wiley , I am as much a part as you are. No more no less. So you are as much to blame. like it or not.
I grant you a better IQ to understand that.
Mr Tom Duggar tried to give FAA's side, the one at the butt end in this thread.
So please keep off. And tread wisely. Don't show your prejudices so loudly.
I grant you a better IQ to understand that.
Mr Tom Duggar tried to give FAA's side, the one at the butt end in this thread.
So please keep off. And tread wisely. Don't show your prejudices so loudly.
Thank you for pointing out my error.
Silly of me to be so busy polishing my prejudices that I missed Mr. Duggar's voicing the official FAA position. And here I thought he was expressing his own opinion from his own experience.
Silly of me to be so busy polishing my prejudices that I missed Mr. Duggar's voicing the official FAA position. And here I thought he was expressing his own opinion from his own experience.
ThanX my friend joel wiley for being so magnanimous.
Please stay as sweet. Always .
I am definitely prone to errors. But I try to correct myself.
I am here to learn and enjoy flying, on ground or in air.
:-)
Please stay as sweet. Always .
I am definitely prone to errors. But I try to correct myself.
I am here to learn and enjoy flying, on ground or in air.
:-)
I want some of this guy's brownies.
I wonder if it is really necessary to have all the new regulations created since the 1970's. Has flying become more safe? With so few airplanes flying any more I would think that we could go back to the 1960's regulations and see which regulations created since are actually necessary and if not, eliminate them. I also believe that the FAA personnel should come up through the ranks of the aviation industry with a requirement that they have actual years experience working in the field before they can become inspectors just like pilots who must have so many hours prior experience before they can obtain an advanced license and mechanics have so many years experience before they can become Authorized Inspectors. I would respect an FAA inspector more if he actually worked in the industry before becoming an inspector than one who just has a college education and never touched an airplane before. These kind of inspectors would more likely be able to use common sense in their decisions and actually be helpful again. We need intelligent inspectors and not policemen.
I know these things will never happen but we can dream.