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Asiana to proceed with TV station suit -- but NTSB off the hook
Seoul, South Korea (CNN) -- Asiana Airlines says it will proceed with its planned lawsuit against an Oakland, California, television station -- but it's not going to pursue legal action against the National Transportation Safety Board. Over the weekend, the Korean airlines had said it would sue both entities after an intern at the NTSB mistakenly confirmed "inaccurate and offensive" names as those of the pilots of ill-fated Flight 214. (www.cnn.com) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Those names "damaged the reputation of the pilots and the airline".... REALLY
Interesting thought to me as well... LOL, there name was not much to begin with.
Asiana should concentrate on getting their planes into the sky and back down to the ground safely, and completely revamp their pilot training. They shouldn't be worrying about a prankster's joke.
Asisna's reputation is in the tank, but it's all their own doing, and had nothing to do with this prank. Their reputation couldn't get any worse than it already is this week, no matter any prank that is committed.
Asisna's reputation is in the tank, but it's all their own doing, and had nothing to do with this prank. Their reputation couldn't get any worse than it already is this week, no matter any prank that is committed.
Right you are.
In their pathetic condition, what else can they think of ? Another stupidity! No one will be a greater fool to rush to a court of law with such a petty issue only to fall flat on their face ! Thus adding insult to injury, further damage to an already damaged and tarnished image.
And, as suggested by you, they must and have to concentrate on their pilot training programs and ethics.
Their reputation is at stake as well their national honour in various ways!
More over, in my humble opinion, simultaneously air safety agencies all over the world must unite and frame common guidelines to frame rules of pilot training and refresher courses as well testing, whether on 'job' basis or/and simulator basis. All this on periodic and statutory basis.
Further, once or twice a year every airport all over the world must be "instructed" to switch off their ILS for a few weeks AFTER advance notice so that EVERY pilot undergoes 'self orientation' for manual operations. And as an abundant precaution, the ATC including intermediate ATCs can also fore warn or remind the approaching AC of this fact about manual landing.
In their pathetic condition, what else can they think of ? Another stupidity! No one will be a greater fool to rush to a court of law with such a petty issue only to fall flat on their face ! Thus adding insult to injury, further damage to an already damaged and tarnished image.
And, as suggested by you, they must and have to concentrate on their pilot training programs and ethics.
Their reputation is at stake as well their national honour in various ways!
More over, in my humble opinion, simultaneously air safety agencies all over the world must unite and frame common guidelines to frame rules of pilot training and refresher courses as well testing, whether on 'job' basis or/and simulator basis. All this on periodic and statutory basis.
Further, once or twice a year every airport all over the world must be "instructed" to switch off their ILS for a few weeks AFTER advance notice so that EVERY pilot undergoes 'self orientation' for manual operations. And as an abundant precaution, the ATC including intermediate ATCs can also fore warn or remind the approaching AC of this fact about manual landing.
I'd have to agree with Torsten, you don't want anh perfectly functioning ILS systems not on, if at all possible.
The situation at SFO was that for one or more runways the ILS was off for a few weeks due to a construction project.
Having a PIC demonstrate manual piloting skills with a FSO periodically is totally fine by me. In addition, a pilot should perform manual take-offs and landings regularly to maintain skills.
That Saturday of the crash would've been a great day to land manually, even if the ILS had been fully operational. Regularly exercising manual piloting skills means that when a pilot arrives at a facility without ILS on a particular runway, the pilot won't get anxious about completing a routine landing.
Had the weather been unpleasant, SFO would likely have switched landings to a runway with operational ILS. Otherwise, operations would've likely backed up, causing flight delays for departures and arrivals, moreso without ILS than with.
So:
There's no reason to turn off ILS for safety.
But every reason for pilots to land manually on a regular basis, when the conditions permit.
The situation at SFO was that for one or more runways the ILS was off for a few weeks due to a construction project.
Having a PIC demonstrate manual piloting skills with a FSO periodically is totally fine by me. In addition, a pilot should perform manual take-offs and landings regularly to maintain skills.
That Saturday of the crash would've been a great day to land manually, even if the ILS had been fully operational. Regularly exercising manual piloting skills means that when a pilot arrives at a facility without ILS on a particular runway, the pilot won't get anxious about completing a routine landing.
Had the weather been unpleasant, SFO would likely have switched landings to a runway with operational ILS. Otherwise, operations would've likely backed up, causing flight delays for departures and arrivals, moreso without ILS than with.
So:
There's no reason to turn off ILS for safety.
But every reason for pilots to land manually on a regular basis, when the conditions permit.
The ILS was not turned off for safety. It was due to the construction.
Mitral suggesting turning off perfectly good ILS systems for safety, inessence to force pilots to be able to land manually.
It was widely recognized to be a very bad idea to turn off a safety feature of many major airports' runways in the name of safety.
I understand the desire to get pilots to use their manual flying skills. The motivation to learn and maintain manual flying needs to be something other than regular deactivating of perfectly good ILS approaches.
Pilots can perform manual flight operations, even with ILS on. But you need airline pilot training, airline policy and regulator policy to support the importance of good flying skills.
It was widely recognized to be a very bad idea to turn off a safety feature of many major airports' runways in the name of safety.
I understand the desire to get pilots to use their manual flying skills. The motivation to learn and maintain manual flying needs to be something other than regular deactivating of perfectly good ILS approaches.
Pilots can perform manual flight operations, even with ILS on. But you need airline pilot training, airline policy and regulator policy to support the importance of good flying skills.
Buddy, all said and done, how do you handle a situation like the present which can happen any where and may last for any length of time. The ILS at the SFO was down for many days earlier. AND, all airlines were landing their aircrafts safely. Even this ASIANA 214 flight which is daily flight had been brought safely by Asians's pilots till the fateful day.
So why and how THESE pilots faltered and no one else till then? Including their own Koreans who flew in on previous days!
These are some of the questions which will weigh VERY heavily on all agencies, NTSB, FAA,Asiana(internally) and lastly the Courts. And Asiana and the pilots in question may have tough time answering them.
I seek enlightenment!
So why and how THESE pilots faltered and no one else till then? Including their own Koreans who flew in on previous days!
These are some of the questions which will weigh VERY heavily on all agencies, NTSB, FAA,Asiana(internally) and lastly the Courts. And Asiana and the pilots in question may have tough time answering them.
I seek enlightenment!
I read but did not verify that the Asiana 214 flight from the day before the crash performed a go around.
I suspect that if you look at the data from all the Asiana flights, and likely other airlines that don't value manual piloting skills, you will find more go arounds during this time that ILS is down for construction. You will also find other approaches that are erratic, unstable and departing from normal in some way.
I would guess the NTSB is looking at that data now. I would.
Before issuing recommendations, it's a good idea to look at the data and figure out how big the problem really is.
I suspect that if you look at the data from all the Asiana flights, and likely other airlines that don't value manual piloting skills, you will find more go arounds during this time that ILS is down for construction. You will also find other approaches that are erratic, unstable and departing from normal in some way.
I would guess the NTSB is looking at that data now. I would.
Before issuing recommendations, it's a good idea to look at the data and figure out how big the problem really is.