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Fliers’ vs. Airlines’ Rights
Airlines have long been able to remove disruptive passengers from their airplanes. But while in the past only fellow travelers knew what had happened, now social media exposes these disputes to a worldwide audience. (www.nytimes.com) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
It's all about manners. Look around you, in the stores and on the road, it' me, me,me. Thanks, Mick
When you get right down to it, it's manners. People don't display manners any more. Look at the rude drivers on the road, in department storesand just about every where. Thanks, Mick
Right on! If u can't figure out a way to fit in then hitchhike asshole. Airlines might be the last bastion of majority rules.
98% of us know how to dress and behave on a flight. Well maybe not that high of a percentage.
I believe many are so self centered and so self important that they believe they have an absolute right to anything they please with impunity.
This has lead to increasing amounts of inconsiderate and downright boorish behavior on passenger flight.
I believe the air carriers should absolute authority to grant passage or refuse passage at any time so as long as civil rights of people are not violated.
The baggy pants guy and the dopey chick with the micro mini skirt? Allow them an opportunity to adjust their wardrobe or they can drive to their destination. People who are uncooperative are that way because they believe their rights are more important than those of all others. They have to be shown such is not the case.
I believe many are so self centered and so self important that they believe they have an absolute right to anything they please with impunity.
This has lead to increasing amounts of inconsiderate and downright boorish behavior on passenger flight.
I believe the air carriers should absolute authority to grant passage or refuse passage at any time so as long as civil rights of people are not violated.
The baggy pants guy and the dopey chick with the micro mini skirt? Allow them an opportunity to adjust their wardrobe or they can drive to their destination. People who are uncooperative are that way because they believe their rights are more important than those of all others. They have to be shown such is not the case.
My biggest concern is getting stuck on the ground for hours inside the plane. Regardless of the reason there ought to be a hard time that they have to let people off if they want off. That includes having a means to deplane even without a gate. I would rather walk a mile in a foot of snow than sit in a plane with piss running down the isles.
As far as people being too big for the seat,too smelly, too under dressed, too drunk,etc. It's their plane and their rules. If you think you get treated unfairly don't use their services. You don't have the same rights in someone else's plane, restaurant, etc. As you do in your own home. Most people fly all their life and never have a problem. Being on a ship or a plane is not a democracy---the captain is gospel, like it or not.
As far as people being too big for the seat,too smelly, too under dressed, too drunk,etc. It's their plane and their rules. If you think you get treated unfairly don't use their services. You don't have the same rights in someone else's plane, restaurant, etc. As you do in your own home. Most people fly all their life and never have a problem. Being on a ship or a plane is not a democracy---the captain is gospel, like it or not.
That was my point in the story. I never got seat qualified. The FA on my flight might have had an issue with me and decided I was too big for my seat. If I refuse to pay the 2nd seat charge I will have wasted 3 to 4 hours which would have put me below Richmond Va. had I decided to drive. Further, lately there is a new trend. when did they get the right to keep you on a plane. If the aircraft is delayed at the gate even, you don't have the right to get off? If I try to make my case I might be arrested as disruptive. Where are we going with all this. When did we sign away our rights. I'm not talking about stepping on other peoples toes I'm just talking about deplaning from a sweat box.
The answer you will get is that while a delay is happening the crew are trying to sort out new slot times. Depending on the reason for the delay it could be sorted very quickly, if they then have to reload the passengers they could loose that slot.
On a flight in August from Washington to Boston, we taxied to the end of the runway to be informed due to weather in the Northeast corridor we would be delayed for 1 hour. The cabin crew requested opening cabin service, which the Captain granted but said it would need to cleared quickly. 10 minutes later the Captain came over the intercom and told us we had clearance to go, the cabin crew cleaned the cabin by the time the engines had been restarted. Before we reached the runway our clearance had been revoked and we ended up returning to the holding point for 50 minutes.
Yes this is different from being on the gate, but had we had the engines running we would have taken off 50 minutes earlier. Had passengers been allowed off the plane at the gate certain slot allocations wouldn't be possible.
On a flight in August from Washington to Boston, we taxied to the end of the runway to be informed due to weather in the Northeast corridor we would be delayed for 1 hour. The cabin crew requested opening cabin service, which the Captain granted but said it would need to cleared quickly. 10 minutes later the Captain came over the intercom and told us we had clearance to go, the cabin crew cleaned the cabin by the time the engines had been restarted. Before we reached the runway our clearance had been revoked and we ended up returning to the holding point for 50 minutes.
Yes this is different from being on the gate, but had we had the engines running we would have taken off 50 minutes earlier. Had passengers been allowed off the plane at the gate certain slot allocations wouldn't be possible.
Andrew: if you did a poll, most of the average flying public would not know what a slot time is. They have no conception of what has to happen to get an airplane from point A to B. The departure time is listed as 0900 and the arrival is at 1100 and that is all they know, NOT KNOWING THAT ATC DON'T REALLY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE ADVERTISED TIME as far as the schedule goes. That inbetween time is all on the pilot. I will give ATC credit for allowing a pilot to make up time, IF THEY SAFELY CAN, but they don't have to.