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Citilink pilot fired, allegedly drunk
The checkpoint video clip is frightening. Somehow he got all the way to the flight deck unchallenged, then the pax started to deplane after hearing him speak. (www.foxnews.com) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150305-the-man-who-gets-drunk-on-chips
Interesting, but not relevant to the now unemployed Citilink pilot. There are also rare individuals who do not produce alcohol dehydrogenase and cannot metabolize ETOH. That is likewise irrelevant to the current topic.
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For some reason my reply to your earlier post did not get posted. I just replicated it. Hopefully the two will make more sense than just this thread's.
I just watched a short documentary which featured a condition called auto brewery. A person with this syndrome can behave exactly like a total drunk without drinking a drop of alcohol. When the drunkenness subsides he does not even remember it. It is an extremely rare condition and maybe even most doctors may not know about it. Wonder if this pilot has this condition? Apparently a person with this condition can have an episode of drukenness at any time. I too wondered why the security guards did not stop him. After all a totally drunk person should reek of alcohol which is very noticeable to people nearby. But since this condition is due to alcohol being produced in his own body perhaps he does not have smell of alcohol on his breath?
I suspect that the pilot had a condition much less rare than auto brewery syndrome. One with this syndrome acts like a drunk because they actually are responding to ETOH intoxication. While there is some anecdotal evidence that a rare individual had a BA of .08 gm/ml, the pilot's reported results were 3 times that.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10976182
http://nurse-practitioners-and-physician-assistants.advanceweb.com/Features/Articles/Auto-Brewery-Syndrome.aspx
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10976182
http://nurse-practitioners-and-physician-assistants.advanceweb.com/Features/Articles/Auto-Brewery-Syndrome.aspx
I think we all agree that there must have been excessive alcohol in his blood as he went thru security. The benefit of a doubt which i am bringing up is How did the alcohol get into his blood stream? Did he have a few drinks? When did he drink? Was he also staggering about as he reported for flight briefing? Didn't the flight dispatchers notice it? Did his wife fetch him to the airport? And she didn't even care that he was drunk?
Or did AB SYNDROME quietly manufacture alcohol in his gut and finally reach the point where the drunkenness started to appear at the airport?
Although auto brewery syndrome is extremely rare, it is also extremely rare for a pilot to drink so much before a flight that he is totally incapacitated by the time he reaches the airport.
If his drunkenness was due to his DELIBERATE act of drinking alcohol before flight then he deserves every punishment he has got so far and maybe even more to come.
But if it was due to something he didn't do and he was not aware about then....?
I too am in the airlines industry. Been a line engineer for many years. I have personal encounters with pilots all the time on the line. I also flew a number of years as a private pilot.
I am just as ready as everyone else to praise or condemn pilots if their actions deserve it.
I have absolutely no reason to defend this pilot. In fact i by pure chance happen to see the documentary about AB Syndrome a few days after this incident. Before knowing about AB i too was cursing the pilot for this but now......let's see what the investigation comes up with.
Or did AB SYNDROME quietly manufacture alcohol in his gut and finally reach the point where the drunkenness started to appear at the airport?
Although auto brewery syndrome is extremely rare, it is also extremely rare for a pilot to drink so much before a flight that he is totally incapacitated by the time he reaches the airport.
If his drunkenness was due to his DELIBERATE act of drinking alcohol before flight then he deserves every punishment he has got so far and maybe even more to come.
But if it was due to something he didn't do and he was not aware about then....?
I too am in the airlines industry. Been a line engineer for many years. I have personal encounters with pilots all the time on the line. I also flew a number of years as a private pilot.
I am just as ready as everyone else to praise or condemn pilots if their actions deserve it.
I have absolutely no reason to defend this pilot. In fact i by pure chance happen to see the documentary about AB Syndrome a few days after this incident. Before knowing about AB i too was cursing the pilot for this but now......let's see what the investigation comes up with.
David Loh,
I just noticed that FA seems to have merged this drunken Singapore pilot squawk with another reporting on a Sunwing pilot out of Calgary. Hmm.
I just noticed that FA seems to have merged this drunken Singapore pilot squawk with another reporting on a Sunwing pilot out of Calgary. Hmm.
Indonesian not Singapore pilot. Probably lots of confusion here as to who we are referring to.