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LaGuardia Airport Perimeter Rule ‘Under Review’

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LaGuardia Airport’s perimeter rule, which limits the distance of most of its flights, may be up for reconsideration in the wake of its planned redevelopment. The rule is “under review,” Ron Marsico, a Port Authority spokesman, ... (www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com) Más...

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preacher1
preacher1 2
This is not surprising with all the publicity on Trump's flight to LA and back. They have seen that only applies to 121 flights and bureaucrats got caught with their pants down.
musicmommy
Judy Greene 2
My main concern is one of safety. How safe it is for the longer-distance larger planes to use the short LGA runways? My understanding is that there is little room for error.
preacher1
preacher1 1
7 grand is a little short, say for a 777 at MTOW. JFK is a lot nicer.
preacher1
preacher1 1
On the other hand, a 757 would do quite nicely.
DerekCooks
Derek Thomas 1
Shades of DAL, not so long ago...
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
I feel that this is wrong... Limiting one airport to protecting another is wrong... The same thing (as much as I dislike them) at LUV field targeted at South West...
JerrySteinberg
Wrong in what way? Someone owns 2 airports and limits one in favor of another. You mightn't like it but it's up to the owner of the 2, not anyone else. And what does this have to do with an airport (LUV) in Indonesia exactly?
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
The same thing happened with LUV when DFW came into play... They limited the flight range to impact only one airline... They were trying to force airlines to move to another airport...
preacher1
preacher1 1
That was politics, a/k/a Jim Wright. Best I remember he was speaker of the house at the time and outranked the Dallas folks. BTW Love field is DAL, not LUV. As per the post above, LUV is down yonder someplace.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
I stand corrected (DAL vs LUV), but it still seems like it would limit airlines capabilities being range limited...
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, then, the Port Authority owners wanted to protect JFK and initially probably get rid of LGA altogether as the FAA did with DCA/IAD. Not sure if there is a perimeter rule at DCA but there are no International flights, only domestic. As was stated, DAL/DFW was legislated by a very powerful man at the time and you really can't blame the Airlines for going, although it wasn't just a horse race to get over there. To boot, DAL had no way to grow and needed too. It is OK for the Southwest 737's but it got grungy and pucker to get a 707 in/out of there with only 1/2 bag of fuel and any pax weight at all. AA did it all the time but they would have to take on fuel going West or long East. That 8800' paralell wasn't there in the early years.
DerekCooks
Derek Thomas 1
Here's the poop on the Wright Amendment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_Amendment
There is a difference in that DAL/DFW limits were legislated "protections" and LGA/JFK seems to be more of a "private" Port Authority decision.
DerekCooks
Derek Thomas 1
And another fascinating read - this time on Western Airlines 1986 lawsuit against the Port Authority on the Perimeter Rule - a losing fight, as it turns out. See the references to DCA's similar perimeter rule, for mostly the same reasons, by the FAA (owner of DCA and IAD). Interesting... http://www.leagle.com/decision/19861610658FSupp952_11447.xml/WESTERN%20AIR%20LINES%20v.%20PORT%20AUTH.%20OF%20N.Y.%20&%20N.J.
bettiem
bettiem 1
Errors will happen, which of course is why there are safety margins. This consideration narrows some of those margins within a densely populated area with inevitable statistical results.
jmoyikjr
jmoyikjr 1
737s are flying coast to coast out of JFK and flying as far as Dallas out of LGA. I would welcome being able to fly to the West Coast out of LGA so I don't have to suffer the traffic to and from JFK.
mikeharbour
Mike Harbour 1
From Wikipedia:
Perimeter restrictions
Reagan National Airport is subject to a federally mandated perimeter limitation and may not accommodate nonstop flights to or from cities beyond 1,250-statute-mile (2,010 km), with limited exceptions. The U.S. Department of Transportation has issued "beyond-perimeter slot exemptions" which allow specified carriers to operate 20 daily round-trip flights to cities outside the perimeter.

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