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Child directs air traffic at JFK tower

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The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating why a child was allowed to direct air traffic at John F. Kennedy airport, one of the busiest airports in the country. The FAA says a controller brought the child to work on February 17th and allowed him to talk to pilots. (www.nbcnewyork.com) Más...

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dalesnok
snook dale 0
I dont think its that big a deal get over it and move on. lets not waste dollars on this issue !!!!
flyinpro
Jim Jeffries 0
I don't think so either. OK, so the kid should not have contacted the aircraft, but the pilots didn't seem confused and acted like they were in on it. It's not like the kid broke into the tower and started directing traffic himself..
dbaker
Daniel Baker 0
In my mind, the issue is less about the particular incident, but a general concern about distractions in the tower cab.
joelr
Joel Rodriguez 0
I think there may be a little over reaction regarding this events. At no time were the controllers or pilots involved in this event raising question. It happened, lets create a new policy so this does not happen again, and lets move on.
andrei210
andrei drei 0
i agree - seems overblown. the controller seemed to be on top of the situation. lets move on.
privatepilot152
I think this is way overblown, i hear way worste from other pilots from other countries. When they talk over the radio they aren't understandable at all, and thats more dangersous then a kid telling a plane to contact departure, with his dad, the controller right next to him. . I am stoked for that kid and a little jealous.
maxim6194
Matt Smith 0
ahaha thats histerical "adios amigo"
flyingcookmosnter
Would this even have made headlines pre-911? I doubt it.
Annemarie04
It's so cute and all. But it stops being cute when someone gets hurt.
Coby
Coby 0
This really overblown. This happens at other towers, when school or Scout troops visit. The controller is still in charge, the child just gets to say what the controller tells them to. It's a fascinating experience for the child and probably will stick with them - gaining us an aviation advocate as they grow up. At no time was there any safety issue - the people in charge were still there controlling traffic.
wireless911
Kenneth Lowden 0
Let's move on and NOT spend anymore money. The child did a good job and no issues with Safety with Dad standing next to the child. It is not like they were working the New York center or JFK approach.
Archerll
Henry Gartman 0
As usual the news media has to have something to fill time and space. So overblown, just hope they don't lock down everything like post 911. No more tours for scouts, pilots, or others. We will all have to pay in some way,so sad for the controllers and their family's.
6540E
john johnson 0
The news media seldom gets any aviation events reported correctly. It was made to sound like a national disaster was narrowly averted. I salute the controller for getting the kid a chance to see aviation up close. No danger to anyone....his dad was right there!
elise
Ronald Bly 0
If dad was a flight controller he would be able to handle the situation.
knwatts
Kathy Watts 0
I thought the kid was awesome, his Dad was right there what is the big deal.
gwhelo
Gregory Wood 0
The byproduct of a low news day....and/or a zealous coworker with a problem.
The positive side...It made the kids day! They will never forget the "supervised" experience.
davidsholem
Michael David 0
Listen, if this was the worst event at KJFK, then I could see the cab-crew being disciplined! However, it is not, for, although the workload is heavy at JFK, there are many potential mis-haps by seasoned controllers and sleeping pilots!
ShooterAoD
Paul Slonaker 0
The tight-butt FAA needs to lighten up. There was no danger...nothing even close and everyone was enjoying it, and DAD was right there the whole time. The FAA is making it sound like DAD left to go take a nap and left his kid in control. This is 100% BS on the FAA's part.
davidsholem
Michael David 0
Good Point! How many times I let my boy copy and read-back a clearance!!! NOTE: PLEASE DON'T TELL THE FAA!!!
ernie240
Ernesto Rivera 0
Overblown!
davidsholem
Michael David 0
Go to JFK ATC at UTUBE and listen to a couple of pilot/controller interactions! And they complained about a kid!!!
BentParrot
Ray Irizarry 0
Leave it to the media to make a story where there was none!
Tom54JH
Tom Hartranft 0
Sounds like a future controller to me!
crk112
crk112 0
just like the media to blow this way out of proportion.. it's the media that gave the FAA it's bad reputation.
gruntusmc
Get a life.
gruntusmc
No. Carl. Thats what I think about the people making such a big deal about nothing. THEY need to get a life or find something else to do. Don't you agree?
gruntusmc
I know what you mean, brother. Think this is bad, check out Craigslist. Had no idea anyone could be that ignorant. I can't get mad at them because I feel too sorry for them.

Rocking on. . . . . . Oh, do you fly?
gruntusmc
Wow, you have good friends, Karl. I'm one third in a super King Air 200. If you're ever in Houston email me and well scrape some cloud tops. Got the whole Gulf of Mexico to play over.
CaptainArt
I strongly disagree with all of you that feels no " harm was done"and " get a life". That all sounds so childless. The issue is that the kid had no busn. to be on the air. I give the controller a month no pay vacation. No where in the hand book does it say that it is OK to allow your child to play controller. This is another reason why this country is headed the way it is. To many play the no harm no foul game. That is not playing by the rules. I was just bought up a different way then you kids.
davidsholem
Michael David 0
I am sure in your pilot career you have screwed-up one time or another! You were probably the VFR pilot that flew right through the NY Class B below me while I was shooting the "Alpha" approach at KTEB!!!
gruntusmc
Someday you may be invited to fly in the back-seat of one of your country's
Most powerful fighter jets. Many of you already have. John Elway,
John Stockton, Tiger Woods to name a few. If you get this opportunity,
Let me urge you, with the greatest sincerity....
Move to Guam .

Change your name.

Fake your own death!

Whatever you do.

Do Not Go!!!


I know. I went.

The U.S. Navy invited me to try it. I was thrilled. I was pumped.
I was toast! I should've known when they told me my pilot would
Be Chip (Biff) King of Fighter Squadron 213 at Naval Air Station
Oceana in Virginia Beach ..

Whatever you're thinking a Top Gun named Chip (Biff) King looks
Like, triple it. He's about six-foot, tan, ice-blue eyes, wavy surfer hair,
Finger-crippling handshake -- the kind of man who wrestles
Dyspeptic alligators in his leisure time. If you see this man, run the
Other way. Fast.

Biff King was born to fly. His father, Jack King, was for years the
Voice of NASA missions. ('T-minus 15 seconds and counting'. Remember?)
Chip would charge neighborhood kids a quarter each to hear his dad.
Jack would wake up from naps surrounded by nine-year-olds waiting
For him to say, 'We have liftoff'.

Biff was to fly me in an F- 14D Tomcat, a ridiculously powerful $60 million
Weapon with nearly as much thrust as weight, not unlike Colin Montgomerie.
I was worried about getting airsick, so the night before the flight I asked
Biff if there was something I should eat the next morning.

'Bananas,' he said.

'For the potassium?' I asked.

'No,' Biff said, 'because they taste about the same coming up
As they do going down.'

The next morning, out on the tarmac, I had on my flight suit with my name
Sewn over the left breast. (No call sign -- like Crash or Sticky or Leadfoot.
But, still, very cool.) I carried my helmet in the crook of my arm, as Biff had
Instructed. If ever in my life I had a chance to nail Nicole Kidman, this was it.

A fighter pilot named Psycho gave me a safety briefing and then fastened
Me into my ejection seat, which, when employed, would 'egress' me out
Of the plane at such a velocity that I would be immediately knocked
Unconscious.

Just as I was thinking about aborting the flight, the canopy closed over me,
And Biff gave the ground crew a thumbs-up In minutes we were firing nose
Up at 600 mph. We leveled out and then canopy-rolled over another F-14.

Those 20 minutes were the rush of my life. Unfortunately, the ride lasted 80.
It was like being on the roller coaster at Six Flags Over Hell. Only without rails.
We did barrel rolls, snap rolls, loops, yanks and banks. We dived, rose and
Dived again, sometimes with a vertical velocity of 10,000 feet per minute.
We chased another F-14, and it chased us.



We broke the speed of sound. Sea was sky and sky was sea. Flying at
200 feet we did 90-degree turns at 550 mph, creating a G force of 6.5,
Which is to say I felt as if 6.5 times my body weight was smashing
Against me, thereby approximating life as Mrs.. Colin Montgomerie.

And I egressed the bananas.

And I egressed the pizza from the night before.

And the lunch before that.

I egressed a box of Milk Duds from the sixth grade.

I made Linda Blair look polite.. Because of the G's, I was egressing
Stuff that never thought would be egressed..

I went through not one airsick bag, but two.

Biff said I passed out. Twice.. I was coated in sweat. At one point,
As we were coming in upside down in a banked curve on a mock
Bombing target and the G's were flattening me like a tortilla and I
Was in and out of consciousness, I realized I was the first person
In history to throw down.

I used to know 'cool'. Cool was Elway throwing a touchdown pass,
Or Norman making a five-iron bite.. But now I really know 'cool'.
Cool is guys like Biff, men with cast-iron stomachs and freon nerves.
I wouldn't go up there again for Derek Jeter's black book, but I'm
glad Biff does every day, and for less a year than a rookie reliever
makes in a home stand.

A week later, when the spins finally stopped, Biff called. He said
he and the fighters had the perfect call sign for me. Said he'd
send it on a patch for my flight suit.

What is it? I asked.

'Two Bags.'
SutAir
SutAir 0
So what's the FAA/ATC going to think when my eight year old son communicates IFR clearances (in a very professional manner of course)for me? Were not talking JFK here, but I don't see any harm done!!
Tom54JH
Tom Hartranft 0
Captain Art, you sound like the type that would get a lawyer because it isn't in the book. That is what is killing America. I live near an airport, and believe me more than once I heard UNION CONTROLLERS nearly CAUSE an accident on the radio. Sounds like you never had kids, or if you did, I'm not so sure it's a healthy relationship!
NVAPILOT
DAVID PHILLIPS 0
Sheesh, he was not "Directing" traffic... the pilots know what to expect to hear... 'Contact Depature on bla bla bla"... The FAA just wants to show the public that we are safe by beating up the little guys. All you need to do is shake the bushes and the FAA goes ape.....

This is why general aviation is dying. Yup the FAA is letting Bin Ladin do what he wanted to do... put a lot of airports out of business.

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