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Nasa Veteran’s Propellantless Propulsion Drive That Physics Says Shouldn’t Work Just Produced Enough Thrust to Overcome Earth’s Gravity

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Dr. Charles Buhler, a NASA engineer and the co-founder of Exodus Propulsion Technologies, has revealed that his company’s propellantless propulsion drive, which appears to defy the known laws of physics, has produced enough thrust to counteract Earth’s gravity. A veteran of such storied programs as NASA’s Space Shuttle, the International Space Station (ISS), The Hubble Telescope, and the current NASA Dust Program, Buhler and his colleagues believe their discovery of a fundamental new force… (thedebrief.org) Más...

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bingobanner
Russ Brown 10
The return of the fabulous "Dean Drive" as featured in "Analogue Science Fiction Science Fact" 50 years ago. (Along withe the 100 miles per gallon carbureter suppressed by BIG OIL)
richmarton
Rich Marton 4
The "100 MPG" carburetor"! I haven't heard that tale since the '70's. You are right, some random guy some place in Backwoods, USA invented this but, Big Oil bought him out to suppress this "amazing" technology so they could continue to sell more gas.

[Shakes fist at Big Oil]

Interesting, in all this time no one has been able to reproduce that technology.
okanec
Carl OKane 19
Flight aware, you are better than this. Publishing this link puts you on the same level as the national enquirer. Your journalists do themselves a disservice. If you must publish a link to this, publish a link to other opinions. This isn’t news. https://hackaday.com/2024/04/25/the-myth-of-propellantless-space-propulsion-refuses-to-die/
ColinSeftel
Colin Seftel 6
Thanks Carl for publishing that link, which confirms my own skepticism about these claims.
However, the reason why the original story was listed in the weekly Flightaware summary is that it had received 15 upvotes to 2 downvotes. If you want to keep junk news off the summary, visit the site during the week and use your vote!
okanec
Carl OKane 2
Ahhhh. Thanks Colin. That makes sense.
jshhmr
josh homer 2
Never heard of that website. Who are they funded by?
lynx318
lynx318 1
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-debrief-bias/
MoominMama
Janice Watkins 5
Isn't it a bit late for April Fool's Day?
Bandrunner
Bandrunner 5
I always hoped the next major breakthrough in propulsion would be by a bloke in a shed.
craiglgood
Craig Good 9
No peer review, and just a presentation at a crank conference. I think the laws of physics are still safe from the magical drive.
bbabis
bbabis 12
A very interesting read, but 60 years ago I could rub a balloon on my head and it would rise up to the ceiling. I'm not sure how far beyond that principle Dr. Buhler is.
allanrbowman
Allan Bowman 4
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/author/37267914400 the real Dr. Buhler. No mention of tractor beams.
N2903L
Fred Ogden 7
Something about free lunch?
If it sounds to be too good to be true then...
New physics?

Even if a new means of generating thrust without propellant using electrostatics exists, physics does not disappear:

a=m/F. 1g acceleration is possible with a tiny force acting on a tiny mass.

To be useful, the force must be large if the mass is large. If the force is weak, at it seems likely to be, the apparatus must have low mass or this does not do much useful.

Put me in the skeptical category. Fly it over my house with a human on board, and I'll get excited.
steveastrouk
Steve Taylor 2
F=ma a=f/m
allanrbowman
Allan Bowman 6
It seems every techno scam has an alleged former NASA "engineer" behind it. Wall warts that reduce your electricity bill by 90%, vehicle module that dramatically reduces gas mileage and other things that violate well proven physics. My house is powered by alien beams from the planet ZOG and is 100% renewable.
bingobanner
Russ Brown 7
During the first oil crisis in 1973 I was staff on the US Senate energy committee. We had secret energy inventions coming out of our ears. "give me a million dollars and I will tellyou what I have." Gas pill (just add water) The fabulous Moody Mobile invented by a dirt track racer and his trusted mechanic, all kinds of stuff.
kpbarbee
Kevin Barbee 2
I hear that planet ZOG is lovely this time of year!
ColinSeftel
Colin Seftel 6
The article quotes Dr Buhler, “The highest we have generated on a stacked system is about 10 mN”. That’s equivalent to about 1 gram force. Later there’s a claim that the 30-40 gram device was producing enough thrust to counteract the full force of one Earth gravity. That would take a force of 300-400 mN.
That’s a big contradiction.
bbabis
bbabis 3
This comes to mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w
Cat3508
Neil Ward 3
I wonder if Captain Kirk knows about this !
lynx318
lynx318 1
Keep thinking of Star Wars Replulsorlifts but those only raise a ship not propel it.
scottsol31
Scott Soloway 3
The unmentioned beauty of this propulsion method is that the necessary electricity is generated by cold fusion.
RexBentley
Rex Bentley 3
Yep, rubber bands.
tongo
Dan Grelinger 5
The headline is a definite, blatant and intentional lie. I HATE lies.
tongo
Dan Grelinger 1
Whoever downvoted my comment must love being lied to.
Ken4439
Ken Rackowski 3
It’s about as believable as the USA using 100% renewable power by 2050.
w1cavico
William Cavico 1
The brief description reminds of the Townsend electro statically charged flying discs of 80+ years ago.

What was not mentioned was that the "translation of the center of mass" by an electric field brings to mind the ancient Egyptian batteries and movement of stone blocks weighting 10s of tons.
Bobqat
Bob Harrington 1
Fantastic!!!
Now, all we need is a 30 gram astronaut...
tongo
Dan Grelinger 2
No, that would be WAY too obese for this technology.
MikeInPA
Mike InPA 1
Did I miss where they descibed the power source?
electronfairy
John Getty 0
I am insulted that FlightAware would publish this tripe. It brings into question everything in their newsletter.
justpeachyjams80
Arthur Peach 0
This APPEARS to be very credible and appealing, BUT...I think there are a 'million questions' generated by this article. First, we should wait for and demand peer reviews of the theory described here. There MAY BE something here to proceed on, then again there MAY NOT BE. "Question Everything".
tongo
Dan Grelinger 2
If you read the article and thought it credible,…. I hope you don’t vote.
lynx318
lynx318 0
Class role call: Buhler... Buhler... Buhler...

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