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Why Boeing Keeps Losing Money on Each 787 Dreamliner
Amid all the fine financial news Boeing (BA) can tout—a record order backlog, robust profit margins, a higher profit outlook—one of the airplane maker’s dreariest performers continues to be its highest-tech, most fuel-efficient product: the 787 Dreamliner. (www.businessweek.com) Más...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
Smart buyers will set parts pricing standards in the contract for the plane. Like Boeing probably did with all their suppliers of parts around the World. Or did they??? Ken
Hey Phill do your self a favor and forget about it! If you don't think so then that's ok! But if read more than the title you might be able to get it. Just forget about its not not worth it!! It's all about the media and winding boeing issues and not Airbus Issues when they both have engineering problems as usual! If I'm not clear enough then forget about it and have a nice beer!
One more time, I did no have time to check for gramma !
Gillette had a saying, "Give away the razor so you can sell them the blades".....Boeing taking a loss on the build to lock customers into purchasing proprietary parts is hardly a fool's errand. Boeing dictates the price, they understand the costs and since this isn't their first rodeo, it's a sure bet they understand the long term income that will come from selling these at a price appeal too hard to refute.......
I meant "that does not make a good plane" refering to Airbus!
My bad, I did not have time to check for gramma...
My bad, I did not have time to check for gramma...
Boeing keeps loosing money? Think about it... The biggest opponent for Boeing is the US MEDIA, they are paid to spice up debates, and make up rumors about Boeing going down the hill.
Now Boeing not only builds commercial airplanes, war birds, unmanned, helis, owns jeppessen (most used charts around the globe), Honywell,etc Boeing is also sharing projects with fast growing builders like Embraer and a few others.
Now let's talk about quality control, yes we all know they had problems with the union and engineers were "not doing their best", and all that. --they got over it-- Do you ever wonder why Airbus problems never see the light so bright like Boeing Does?
First European media is not self destroying like the ones we have in US. Just mention a couple of Airbus problems:
Main wing spar cracks in the A380
Engine severe damages(fans not Able to rotate during flight)
Flight control computers not receiving pilots commands,
Crucial sensing devices not performing properly under icing conditions (even the certificated ones)
And so on...
Emirates airlines reps. in a job fair stated "we regret buying A330, what a scam" refering to my friend experience as a capt. In 330 (almost 3000hrs on type) he was offered a right seat on the 380 she further explained they want to get rid of the 330, and buy more 777.
Now, as a pilot if you ask me what kind of emergency Do I prefer? I will none, but if I have to choose from a battery catching fire or engine failure and a main wing spar structure failure, or loss of control. I would take the firs two without any doubt!
You will never, ever find a plane without issues, they are human made!!
I will always pick my American, robust and confident plane= Boeing.
Airbus is not a bad deal, but the only reason they've been selling s much planes it's because they are always on sale, get 1.5 pay 1(for real) the are cheap to maintain, transitions or upgrades are very quick, and so airlines love them, that does make a good plane, that makes a plane loveable for the airlines, since they are cheap to run, don't worry Boeing is catching up!
By the way a350 it's a vulgar copy of the 787
Now Boeing not only builds commercial airplanes, war birds, unmanned, helis, owns jeppessen (most used charts around the globe), Honywell,etc Boeing is also sharing projects with fast growing builders like Embraer and a few others.
Now let's talk about quality control, yes we all know they had problems with the union and engineers were "not doing their best", and all that. --they got over it-- Do you ever wonder why Airbus problems never see the light so bright like Boeing Does?
First European media is not self destroying like the ones we have in US. Just mention a couple of Airbus problems:
Main wing spar cracks in the A380
Engine severe damages(fans not Able to rotate during flight)
Flight control computers not receiving pilots commands,
Crucial sensing devices not performing properly under icing conditions (even the certificated ones)
And so on...
Emirates airlines reps. in a job fair stated "we regret buying A330, what a scam" refering to my friend experience as a capt. In 330 (almost 3000hrs on type) he was offered a right seat on the 380 she further explained they want to get rid of the 330, and buy more 777.
Now, as a pilot if you ask me what kind of emergency Do I prefer? I will none, but if I have to choose from a battery catching fire or engine failure and a main wing spar structure failure, or loss of control. I would take the firs two without any doubt!
You will never, ever find a plane without issues, they are human made!!
I will always pick my American, robust and confident plane= Boeing.
Airbus is not a bad deal, but the only reason they've been selling s much planes it's because they are always on sale, get 1.5 pay 1(for real) the are cheap to maintain, transitions or upgrades are very quick, and so airlines love them, that does make a good plane, that makes a plane loveable for the airlines, since they are cheap to run, don't worry Boeing is catching up!
By the way a350 it's a vulgar copy of the 787
A very long winded and pointless argument.
Boeing making a loss has nothing to do with Airbus!
Boeings problem is this, if you sell your wares for less than it costs you to make them you will have a negative balance sheet.
You don't need a university education to understand this yet for some reason Boeing still do not.
Boeing making a loss has nothing to do with Airbus!
Boeings problem is this, if you sell your wares for less than it costs you to make them you will have a negative balance sheet.
You don't need a university education to understand this yet for some reason Boeing still do not.
Morning Phill! May be I do have a point, may be be you just did not get it! Let's say I wasn't clear enough! What I meant, is that Airbus is doing as good as Boeing, during the last quarter Boing was even on top of Airbus! And we don't have to be geniuses to find out, go to "stocks" on your iPhone, type EADSY and you will be able to get quite a few details on the matter... No back to he subject, my point is Airbus is doing as good as Boeing and their European Media is not going all around the globe winding the whole thing up, nor making a mess out of it!! Compared to the US media. In addition, my humble opinion is: let's take pride of what we do, and Boeing is by far a better plane builder they just are NOT as cheap as Airbus! And refering to why Boeing keeps on selling planes if they are "supposedly" not earning a penny from it, believe my and we don't have to agree on this even if we are born again we won't be able to understand how this industry works, they spend our lifetime in money to hire people for a year that does have the skills to work this out, I believe they have been in the business quite a long time, so I'm pretty sure they know what they are doing! Now let's go back to what we know to do, and let them do their thing. And once again the 350 it's a vulgar copy of the 787!
The title that heads this page is,
"Why Boeing Keeps Losing Money on Each 787 Dreamliner?"
Now look closely at the title and text. It does not claim or even suggest that Boeing are not doing as well as Airbus, in fact Airbus do not even get a mention until you and your American bias introduce the name in your long winded and pointless answer.
Read very carefully before launching a very partisan tirade against a manufacturer who has done nothing to deserve it.
"Why Boeing Keeps Losing Money on Each 787 Dreamliner?"
Now look closely at the title and text. It does not claim or even suggest that Boeing are not doing as well as Airbus, in fact Airbus do not even get a mention until you and your American bias introduce the name in your long winded and pointless answer.
Read very carefully before launching a very partisan tirade against a manufacturer who has done nothing to deserve it.