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28 seconds to survive

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This is one of the most viewed Air Crash investigation episode. On 21 February 2008, Santa Bárbara Airlines Flight 518, en route from Mérida to Caracas, Venezuela, veered off course and crashed into the side of a mountain shortly after takeoff. All 46 passengers and crew aboard the plane died. Investigators determined that the aircraft took off with inoperative navigation due to the pilots’ failure to do their pre-flight checklist. (www.youtube.com) Más...

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sparkie624
sparkie624 8
I have always enjoyed this series... I use it personally to learn from as to WHY we can't do certain things...
teutz
daniel klein 1
People should go to : http://www.planecrashes.org/air-crash-investigations-s12e12-28-seconds-to-survive.html
YOutube restricted this.

If you have troubles , please use http://www.hidemyass.com and access http://www.planecrashes.org
Then you search for 28 seconds to survive , or click on it from the first page.
IT WILL WORK
PeterBrown
Peter Brown 1
Thanks very much. I was able to get the first link (above in this string) to work. It is a classic story. Has meaning for many idustries
teutz
daniel klein 1
Peter,
Please check : http://www.planecrashes.org/air-crash-investigations-s12e12-28-seconds-to-survive.html

We have a new source. You just have to like it on facebook OR tweet on tweeter.

THanks
PeterBrown
Peter Brown 1
It worked finme this time. Glad to know it iks still available, it is too instructive to be buried in the archives.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Link works for me.
teutz
daniel klein 0
Everybody, please confirm the link works.

You only have to share / like the site and you can watch it.
teutz
daniel klein 2
Someone changed the link! Please visit http://www.planecrashes.org to view the latest episodes of Air Crash Investigation , and all plane crash reports!
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
WOW, Thanks form the link. Book marking that one.
teutz
daniel klein 2
Thanks a lot for your words.
You can look in my site. We are dedicated to investigate plane crashes, to find what went wrong and how companies can avoid similar accidents in future.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
Thanks... I would not have said them if I did not mean them.... Many people look at is being entertainment, but I watch the episode and make my own deductions as to what happened. 9 times out of 10 I am either right on or along the same lines. I plan to watch it tonight as I have not seen this one... Going to watch it in 3D... Should be quite interesting.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
What do you need to do to watch this in 3D?
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
A TV with . I use the Toshiba 55TL515U ( http://us.toshiba.com/tv/led/55tl515u/ ) even though it is not manufactured any longer just look for one that has " Tri Vector™ 2D to 3D Conversion". Toshiba is the only brand that I have seen that has this technology and it works pretty well. That view of the plane hitting the mountain was like it coming right at you.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
Are you in the USA Sparkie?
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Yes, and have been all my life. Currently I live in Tennessee, even though that may be changing sometime in the future.
Derg
Roland Dent 2
I am in the UK. You got that music city in Nashville...right? Liked that song PONTOON you had over there last summer.
sparkie624
sparkie624 4
Yeah... But I am in Memphis. Home of Rock'N Roll and Elvis. Memphis has a lot more music than Nashville believe it or not.
Derg
Roland Dent 1
Haha I believe you..YES..like all myths..thanks for the info!
PeterBrown
Peter Brown 2
NONE of these inks are actually available. Everyone seems to have been preempted by FOX. What the heck do they have against improving air safety? I know, I know, they think it is about protecting their copyright. I think they are over zealous in that regard. Has anyone tried to get them to post a link to the story?
bcarlson56649
Bob Carlson 2
FOX does what they want, not what they should. Has always been like that, public interest, public safety, it all means nothing to them.
PeterBrown
Peter Brown 1
Thanks Bob. Sure wish there were a viable link out there somewhere.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=HaxNmWTb3r4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%.3F...v%3DHaxNmWTb3r4
seems to work at the moment
dc74me
dc74me 2
A heartbreaker, and so avoidable. Although the chain of events was different, this one reminds me of the AA Cali crash in 1995.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
Now that you mention it, it does... AA they entered the wrong FMS data, where here they just didn't allow their instruments to come to life. There is no good reason to accept the loss of life on this over such stupidity. I know pilots miss stuff on the walk around, but taking off without attitude and heading reference goes beyond anything that is acceptable. Those pilots both in my opinion murdered all those people on board as well as effectively committing suicide.
brax217
Why would you not do your pre-flight? Its whenever you dont check it, something'll go wrong.
dphelanmail
joseph phelan 1
Link by Joel works just fine
teutz
daniel klein 1
http://www.planecrashes.org/air-crash-investigations-s12e12-28-seconds-to-survive.html

Fixed good link working from all countries.
The only condition is to like or tweet or like on Google plus and you will get access to video.
You just have to like it on facebook , and you can watch it online .
PeterBrown
Peter Brown 1
Thanks very much
teutz
daniel klein 1
http://www.planecrashes.org/air-crash-investigations-s12e12-28-seconds-to-survive.html
teutz
daniel klein 1
use a proxy site ...
http://www.hidemyass.com
access the link from planecrashes and it will work with no problems.
PeterBrown
Peter Brown 1
NONE of these inks are actually available. Everyone seems to have been preempted by FOX. What the heck do they have against improving air safety? I know, I know, they think it is about protecting their copyright. I think they are over zealous in that regard. Has anyone tried to get them to post a link to the story?
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
At 44:55 ... as a result of this crash Merida was closed to commercial traffic as being too dangerous. That seems odd to me, given the pilot error. Were there other issues that led to the closure and this crash merely the excuse? Comments anyone?
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
Too many people making unapproved shortcuts and even ATC Approving them. It was very close into the mountains... You will note when they were taking off, how close the traffic was that was coming in.

Looking back I think one thing that was a contributing factor was the captain wanted to hurry up and get out, otherwise they were going to have to wait on inbound traffic, therefore he did not give it that extra 28 seconds that would have saved them.
WigzellRM
Ralph Wigzell 1
Video no longer available due to copyright claims. Any other link?
jsbuckley
John Buckley 1
Was this a fit of pique on the part of the crew, or was this real? I was not there, nor obviously were people making comments below. We have all seen F/A/s doing great kind, brave things. We have also all seen F/As giving in to the "I have a bit of authority syndrome and am using it". From previous Southwest stories it seems part of the F/A group might have the bit between their mouth, so to speak! I think this expulsion was probably not necessary.
mduralia
Mike Duralia 1
http://www.flyvids.com/view/63/air-crash-investigation-28-seconds-to-survive-s12e12-full-hd/

45 minute video here now...
toolguy105
toolguy105 1
Airline Disasters is the title one of the Discovery Channels is presently showing this series on. I love watching this series and seeing hoe the investigators come to determining the reasons for the crash.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
I like to form my own conclusions and see how close that I come to theirs. Usually I am pretty close.
cnezas
Ralph Nezas 1
they need to re post it!!
clabo
Or just grab

http://www.flyvids.com/flvideo/4ca4238a0b/13670880011246994498.flv

and watch it at your leisure.

[This poster has been suspended.]

StymieHo
Chris Donawho 1
With most HMO's????? I'll refrain from launching an Obamacare sermon here. Just know that was a horrible comparison....lol
StymieHo
Chris Donawho 4
In fact, pilot pay has nothing to do with it. You have to source the problem and eliminate it, not throw money at it.

You want to a place to start? Pick up your favorite aviation related magazine (Flying for me, Plane & Pilot for others) and peruse through the countless "90 days ZERO to ATP" ads. That would be the first place to start improving performance in the cockpit.

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