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A bad case of get-home-itus?

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The pilot of a single-engine Mooney that crashed shortly after takeoff from a small New Mexico airport during risky weather conditions, killing four Texans, had been warned against flying, the manager of the airport said. “'Are you really going to try to fly in this weather?'” the weekend manager at the Angel Fire Airport asked John Phillip Verhalen III, manager Harvey Wright said. “And his answer was, 'Yeah.' I guess he felt confident in his abilities in his skills, and in… (www.mysanantonio.com) Más...

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TiredTom
Tom Bruce 4
I worked as controller at So Lake Tahoe in 75-76... during summer had 1-2 crashes a month.... always gave weather info... density altitude 9500 ft strong downdraft over last 1/3 of runway.. do not turn left on climb out, circle over golf course at end of runway for altitude.. caution there's 5-6 other airplanes circling as well... cleared for take off... one wintry blustery day a dentist, wife, and 2 kids loaded up a piper cherokee.. we gave him all the scary info..he took off, turned left lost altitude and plunged into meadow, driving his landing gear thru the wings, thankfully no one injured seriously... just can't help some folks....
bbabis
bbabis 3
Gusts to 55 is less than half the story but makes good sensationalism. I'll withhold judgement on the decision to go until I know what the wind's steady speed and direction relative to the runway was. It clearly turned out bad and my prayers go out to the families involved.
bovineone
Jeff Lawson 2
More summary details of the incident here: http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=153727

It was probably departing VFR, so there is no flight track available on FlightAware. However, we do have a couple of older photos of it: http://flightaware.com/photos/aircraft/N3484X
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Some updated details on the 4 aboard
Pilot, his sister and two children. Another person decided to stay on the ground at the last minute.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2951541.shtml?cat=504
jbermo
jbermo 1
Wow, all seats full on a 200 hp airplane at over 8,000ft QFE to boot!
pthomas745
Pa Thomas 1
Weather history for AXX for March 3. Wind was consistently from the west all day....gusting from 30-50 MPH from around 10AM to 5 pm...

http://classic.wunderground.com/history/airport/KAXX/2013/3/3/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA
bbabis
bbabis 1
Thanx Pa, SKX is 20 mi away but, if the winds were at all similar at AXX, they were well beyond the crosswind capability of the M20 involved. The rolling effect caused by the terrain just west of the runway would be another significant factor. The wind speed had also doubled between the arrival and departure time. The safe arrival may have lead the pilot into thinking a safe departure could be made.
bentwing60
bentwing60 1
The old rule of thumb is, over 25 Kts., GA light aircraft beware. The wind is not so much the issue as what the mountains make of it. Landed at EGE one day in a Challenger with gusts to 55 out of the NW and I didn't enjoy it and my passengers let me know that they didn't either. But they didn't want to drive from DEN either. You can't win.
dtw757
mike SUT 2
That's where you exercise your Pilot in Command priviledges and tell them that the weather, in your judgement, prevents you from landing in EGE.I've flown that approach and departure and we both know if you had lost an engine,landing or a go-around would have been even more "challenging". Not Monday quarterbacking but that's why you're PIC and they are not. Contract or "feelings" be danged. As it is, if it was a charter, the people left with the same feeling...and might not use your company in the future because they will remember their last ride with you. JMHO
bentwing60
bentwing60 2
Couldn't agree with you more, and on all points. The rub was that the company chief pilot was in the other seat, and made that call. Part 91 flight with the aircraft owners on board, a trophy home in Vail, and a lot of experience with ski country airports. Won't finish my career with that company.
preacher1
preacher1 2
Boy, you ain't supposed to spill their coffee, let alone make 'em piss their pants.LOL
onceastudentpilot
tim mitchell 1
you would know huh?...lol
preacher1
preacher1 2
Smart aleck. BTW, outa here for a meeting
bentwing60
bentwing60 0
You ain't never been so right. It's hard on the tips!

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preacher1
preacher1 1
LOL. Super Crab
TiredTom
Tom Bruce 1
low time pilot flying a Mooney... recipe for disaster... good airplane but complex - easy to get behind the power curve...

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