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Once Again The USAF Is Looking To Re-Engine Its B-52 Fleet

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The USAF is kicking around 'creative concepts' under which it could re-engine its fleet of 74 ever evolving B-52H Stratofortresses. With the bombers remaining in front-line service until at least 2040, and considering that flying with eight 1960s vintage TF33 engines is far from fuel efficient (burning 3k gallons an hour), re-engined B-52s should make great financial sense. (foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com) Más...

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rdzr1
rdzr1 1
You'd have to be f'n nuts to do this.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well if they were allowed to do it, it might work. It sounds screwy at first but it would amount to someone putting up the engines and their return on investment would be the savings in fuel. Now that is the uncertain part as there are too many factors that can affect that figure. I figure it will have to be some type of guaranteed return and then there would be the issue of ownership. As you said, you'd about have to be nuts to do something like this.
COYOTEHUNTER
COYOTEHUNTER 1
I still marvel at how our elected officials use good old "logic & reasoning".
It would seem that some of their estimates might be a trifle off as the cost of refueling the 'ole 52 would/could be dramatically decreased since the extra efficiency would allow some extended missions to be flown without refueling. Or at least reduced refueling sorties by support aircraft. (A significant cost.) I am sure that some existing mission profiles could be used to cost/factor these numbers. With modern engines, an already established support chain in place, proven maintenance histories, it looks to the casual observer as a win/win.
Where is my thought process in error?
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, a given to support your theory on the savings is that with new engines, they wouldn't be burning 3k per hour
rdzr1
rdzr1 1
That's over $50 million per plane to re-engine an over 60 year old design. That is insane. Do we really need to be flying a 90 year old warplane? Time to replace the BUFF was 20 years ago.
preacher1
preacher1 1
What really gets me is that they tried with both the B1 and B2 and didn't, and this engine thing was known when the decision was made to upgrade it.
canuck44
canuck44 1
You are up early for an old guy...must have all your spunk back. That is good news.
preacher1
preacher1 0
Speak for yourself. LOL. I good except for wind and voice. I think the voice is coming. The lack of wind I'll just have to get used to and convince my wife I am not an invalid. I got to go meet with my lawyer later today. I had all my retirement in a 401K based out of Denver and was fixing to move it all out and into a local bank her and start a good weekly annuity. Well, the company changed 401K companies and they are all PO'd, and I am caught in the middle. Got to lawyer up to get my own money. Living on just this Social Security is rough. Hopefully it will get cleared up in the next week or 2. Lawyer seems confident. He don't get paid unless he is successful.
canuck44
canuck44 1
I was up for surgery which starts at 715. Be sure to ask for legal fees from the slugs.
preacher1
preacher1 1
USAF looking to save money????? Are they sick??????
canuck44
canuck44 1
Someone has a friend at GE.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Sounds like somebody got a friend somewhere. Now you just stay out of this and go enjoy that 70 degree weather. LOL
preacher1
preacher1 0
Actually the friend may be at P&W since that is what's on there, and even the story was talking about the 757 being out of production and the C117 going out. I don't know how they would work trying to do double pods but looks to me like if they could perform, that a 4 engine bird would be the way to go, especially for max savings.
canuck44
canuck44 1
They looked at using the RB211 as you suggested. It should be easy to get the needed power and then some (Currently 34K per pod) so I would suspect the main question would be wing strength. They would need new nacelles anyway and could get a cockpit upgrade. While we hear debate on the savings from fuel cost and range extension, the huge savings are those not spent for development and acquisition of a replacement...now that is where the friends will really get paid back like on the F-35. Even upgrading the wings as well would be a big saving.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
What I get from this is the fact that the government and the air force are so screwd up that they have squandered $18 trillion and are seeking a way to finance some engines cause they are broke.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, that too. LOL. How much snow you got up there this morning?
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
3 or 4 but coming down. Bring it on.
preacher1
preacher1 1
We have some sleet and freezing rain. It's on the way out though and coming your way. What airport are you close to up there. I forgot.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
KPah. I'm hangered at m34.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Looks like this mess is headed right up your way. At least you'll have daylight to deal with it. wx people nailed this one. They started talking about it 2-3 days ago. So far, it ain't near as bad as 2/5/14. Ice storm hit then. Tree's fell all over the place, onto my house and totaled my car, and did about $1300 on the wife's. Mine was covered, just had liability on her's.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
That stinks. I was pretty lucky during our big ice a few years ago. 12 days with no electricity though.
preacher1
preacher1 1
I'm thinking about a whole house generator maybe. idk yet. Power outage not near as bad as it used to be but being on well water, and gas electric heat, when we lose electricity, we lose everything.
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
I had 8500 watt portable unit I jumped into panel box. Alternated between heat (I also have gas fireplace), refrigerators, water heater, etc. Worked out fine. Our power loss is minimal now cause they have cut trees that were even close to lines.
preacher1
preacher1 1
They cut this back down here too and it ain't too bad
canuck44
canuck44 1
Thanx, guys. You have just reinforced my decision to move from Nova Scotia to Florida. Bright sunshine here this morning. Temp to the mid 70's today. Was complaining it was cold until you cheered me up. LOL
preacher1
preacher1 1
Rub it in. LOL
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
With age comes wisdom (sometimes).

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