Justin Trudeau to Boeing: Stop suing Bombardier

no love for Boeing after the tanker debacle. They are the first to cry foul if things don't land in their lap. In the past, Boeing simply bought out the competitors. [i.e. McDonnell-Douglas,
DeHavilland Canada] Bombardier not want to sell, perhaps? "If we can't beat them or buy them, let's sue them" Boeing has absolutely NO massive projects underwritten by the US government...{snark mode 'off'}

Most Aviation journalist are very critical (negatively) on Boeing. They understand the problem very well and support Bombardier. In other words Boeing’s reputation is negative worldwide with that story and Bombardier is a beneficiary to the free publicity from Boeing. Lol!

Boeing is afraid of C Series high quality and positive press around the world’s aviation.

Fact is, I'm not a fan of Trudeau, but frankly, Boeing (and Airbus for that matter) were asleep at the wheel, busy figuring out ways to stretch their bread and butter single aisle machines- to stuff upwards of 200 miserable poor souls into them.

Bombardier, meanwhile, develops an alternative A/C for the 110-130 pax market, and Delta smelled blood in the water to pounce on a manufacturer desperate to have a headliner...beating the crap out of Bombardier in the process, in order to get the price they wanted to phase out the Mad Dogs.

It's not like Canada won't buy US fighter jets. Last time I checked, Northrup Grumman makes them as well.

Like it or not, loss leaders occur in all facets of business, gang. Free markets allow for it, particularly when a company is trying to get a new product of theirs into circulation-even if it means selling at little to no margin. That's a company's decision to make.

And Boeing will be so pissed when COMAC purchases 30% or more of the CSeries Holding from Quebec govt and Bombardier and inject some $ to expand the factory and launch the CS500 & CS700 with China placing some hundreds units orders right of the bat...

Thumbs up for Bombardier and Trudeau!

Kind of a kettle/pot situation for Boeing. They don't like Bombardier selling jets in America yet Boeing likes selling 777 and 787 to the ME carriers who completely ignore the Open Sky agreement and via financing with the ExIm bank. And also loves selling 787 to NAI who is flying a flag of convenience, for regulations, crews, flight attendants, taxes, and so on.

What is it Boeing? It seems like you just hate fair competition.

Let's go really back in time to the unfair WWII subsidies from the US Government to Boeing to build the Seattle factories and the "agreement" between the allies where the US would build all the heavy lift and the rest of the allies the bulk of the fighters - thus giving the US a jump in the post war market.

And the UK sharing the results of the Comet metal fatigue findings for the benefit of aviation and the detriment of its commercial jet business

and the US making up rules to keep Concorde out of the US because it didn't have anything similar

and....

Payback time for Boeing.......

:-)

There is what is legal and what is smart. Trudeau is such a sicialist snowflake that he thinks he can intimidate a powerhouse like Boeing with a threat to not buy a single squadron of Hornets when many times that much money is at stake on the commercial side. That ain't gonna work. Ironically Bombardier sued Embraer about 15 years ago for dumping E-145s on the market to compete with CRJs (and they were guilty too). Now it is there turn. All of these companies play hardball and then whine when it is their time ine barrel. Boeing tries to rip off the US government with the tanker scandal, Airbus gets subsidies from the EU, Embraer from the Brazilian government and now the Canadians MAY be guilty of dumping. If so then Boeing is right to sue but if you have read this far then you this ain't 'bout, it's 'bout winnin' and winnin' big cuz that mean money...big money! Bombardier product dumps, Boeing sues, Trudeau threatens and the dance goes on.

Could this nudge Bombardier towards an Airbus "business alliance"? Airbus has been sniffing around Bombardier for years. Even more so should Boeing's legal moves have an impact on Bombardier's results. Hope not, 3 way competition (actually 4 should Embraer be considered) is better in the long run. Boeing got caught with their pants down and are acting like typical schoolyard bullies. (sound familiar re: DT?)

Trudeau---buy your fighters in France and help your leftist buddy.

Canada has long used unfair rules to keep US citizens from working there, and absurd taxes to prevent US companies from competing there.

I think if Trudeau does not need the fighters, I am sure other countries will keep the production lines humming.

Boeing is on the right side of equity. Canada should not be allowed to dump planes in the US in order to keep Canadians working.

Let us try that without all of the errors......

There is what is legal and then there is what is smart. Trudeau is such a socialist snowflake that he thinks he can intimidate a powerhouse like Boeing from taking a legal action with a threat to not buy a single squadron of Hornets (when many times that much money is at stake on the commercial side). Not too smart.

Ironically Bombardier sued Embraer about 15 years ago for product dumping E-145s on the market to compete with CRJs and Now it is there turn. All of these companies play hardball and then whine when it is their time in the barrel. Boeing tries to rip off the US government with the tanker scandal, Airbus gets subsidies from the EU, Embraer from the Brazilian government and now the Canadians may be guilty of dumping so the PM cries foul (nothing to see here folks, move along, move along).

If Canada is product dumping then Boeing is right to sue but if you have read this far then you already know that "this ain't 'bout-that; it's 'bout winnin' and winnin' big cuz that means money...big money! " It is a rather nasty form of 'combat ballet' (otherwise known as business). Bombardier product dumps, Boeing sues, Trudeau threatens and the dance goes on.

Boeing is actually doing us Canadians a favor.
Selling jets for half there cost and using taxpayer subsides to prop up a poorly run company.
A lot of this information is finally becoming public, our government cant continue to hide it.
Thank You Boeing.

Boeings tactics are wrong. When I fly, I prefer Boeing or Bombardier. That said, I avoid flights using Airbus equipment, and would never fly on a new Airbus Model for at least 18 months after a positive track record is established. Bombardier deserves respect as an aircraft manufacturer, and concentrates on reliability before releasing any new model. I give Boeing the same kudos. Corporate fighting on this level level is a real negative for Bombardier. I don't give a damn about Trudeau, or Trumps politics. My comments focus on the aircraft and my feeling of safety in the air. Bombardier has done many clever things with its aircraft, and they keep getting better at it.

Regardless of the specifics of the dispute, Trudeau's reaction seems to set a dangerous precedent - he's saying that bringing up a complaint will result in retaliation in an unrelated deal. That's not how international trade agreements are supposed to work - let the arbitrators decide the merits of the case rather than trying to bully the complainant into submission.