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The process which vets jump seat participants is now in question

And by extension, its application to all pilots. Consider Germanwings 9525, and now Alaska Airlines 2059. A paradoxical line has been crossed, and there’s no discussion happening about the crossing of that line. News services will report on the Andreas Lubitz and Joseph Emerson, but there’s a need to create-split[1] a new and different story about the process which vets the pilot, the first officer, and jump seat occupants, individuals who paradoxically can be seated in any of those three seats.… ( More...

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mbrews 9
I might suggest an alternate headline here . " The process which vets Alaska / Horizon airline employees is in question. " Recall not long ago, I believe there was a Horizon Maintenance employee, not a pilot, who commandeered an empty Horizon turboprop for a disastrous "joyride ".

Whether thsee incidents are ultimately found to involve mental health, and / or illegal drug usage IMO this CARRIERS operations and personnel screening must be investigated.
Torsten Hoff 6
The Horizon Air Q400 was taken by one of their rampies, Richard Russell. Few baggage handlers would be expected to be able to start up a turboprop or jet, but the aircraft certainly should have been secured better.
mbrews 3
Thanks for the clarification, Torsten. It's quite early in the fact finding. Most news reports identify the October 22, 2023 suspect as an off-duty Alaska Airlines pilot.

Tflys1 3
You cannot "vet" out someone that wants to kill you. The solution here will be to make the cockpit jumpseat unavailable to commuting pilots. Not that that will solve anything however because you still have humans involved, and what's not to say that the next nut case that does this just might be a FAA designator who is giving the crew a line check.
mbrews 1
More details have emerged. As per an October 25 news article, court documents suggest psychedelic mushrooms may have played a role. The report indicates that - Up until the time of the 30-second incident, the suspect " appeared normal " to the gate agent and to the cockpit crew.

The suspect discussed with police taking psychedelic mushrooms and his depression, authorities said.

IMO, the emerging trend to "normalize " psychoactive drugs is creating a new set of risks for safety-critical workers and the general public.


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