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Plane that carried Ebola patient being cleaned at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport

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A plane at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport carried an Ebola patient, Frontier Airlines reports. The patient flew into Cleveland Hopkins International Airport Oct. 10 and out Oct. 13. She came to Akron to visit family, the Ohio Department of Health reports. (www.newsnet5.com) Más...

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canuck44
canuck44 9
It will be interesting to find out how they are actually "decontaminating these aircraft. Undoubtedly they are still following guidelines that make the unproven assumption that the virus is never airborne. Cloth seats, seat pockets and washrooms are very difficult to perform non-destructive decontamination...note they are not using the term "sterilization".

The airlines are going to have to invest in better methods to counter viral and bacterial infestation. Likely they will need to acquire technology such as this Pulsed UV robot that could sterilize the aircraft in 10 minutes and have it back in service.

http://www.xenex.com/xenex-robot/
preacher1
preacher1 1
Makes for a good show though. LOL
canuck44
canuck44 1
Probably make for a good investment too. Having watched at first hand the cleaning of our system both as a provider and as a victim, something like this is fast and efficient. Someone would need to shovel out the gross stuff first, but this concept actually kills the microbes rather than redistributing them and kills them where humans cannot or will not reach.

Scary story. One of our housekeepers came up to me when I was the intensivist in the PICU to tell me she had a new job starting next week, as a phlebotomist. Sure enough, the Monday following she was out collecting blood from unsuspecting adult patients. Obviously there was a promotion stream of which I was unaware.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
At a hundred grand a pop, how many could be purchased for an F-35? How much were the TSA scanners?

If purchased as part of an Ebola response program, a side effect would be their availability to reduce Hospital Acquired Infections (HAI)
more at
http://www.xenex.com/uv-blog/
and
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2014/10/09/ebola-scare-exposes-bigger-health-concerns-in.html?page=all
canuck44
canuck44 1
It doesn't take too many salaries and fancy cleaning supplies to make up that $100K. Operating costs are minimal. You are correct Joel...every nosocomial infection costs the patient and/or hospital almost the price of one unit.
ATJensen
A T Jensen 1
John, is the Pulsed UV robot what is being used in some hospitals to combat staff and other infections? How would that work with the complication of seats, closed luggage compartments, etc? What about ozone?
delmonaco03
Yes it is. The system I posted below utilizes sensors to determine when it is "clean". There would need to be multiple moves within the plane but it would work.
delmonaco03
I've been working on a business plan to purchase a similar unit to provide disinfection services here in Maine to the rural hospitals, healthcare facilities and such against C Diff, MRSA, Entero, Noro and other viruses. Now it is taking on a completely different market segment. Already working on contacting airlines and such to offer a service to them.
delmonaco03
This is the link to it. http://www.tru-d.com/
mattwestuk
Matt West 7
OK - So I'm sure I will get torn to shreds for this comment, but here it goes.

To me, the average Joe, this seems to be a product of Airlines operating at full capacity with zero tolerance for aircraft being out of commission. By that I mean that Frontier is operating their service at maximum capacity, with little to no stand-by aircraft. Sure, no airline likes to have an aircraft just sitting around, but the big three (AA, UA, DL) would have been able to withdraw the aircraft from service with little to no effect. It seems the low-budget airlines are not willing to plan for unforeseen outages that may occur and plan aircraft as a result.

In my mind, this aircraft should have been cleaned a-la Outbreak/World War Z style. Instead, and just to get it back in service, it's going to get a wipe down and a vacuum when it should get a full sterilization.

That's just my 4 cents, for what they are worth.
preacher1
preacher1 2
Sad as it is, while it does happen, a man should not get torn to shreds for speaking the truth.
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
To: target-wearing messenger,
that is similar to the long-term reduction in hospital bed inventory which will come back to bite us. But it looks like your getting some thumbs-up shredding.
Excellent points.
joelwiley
joel wiley 5
Health authorities are asking the 132 passengers who were on the flight to contact them.

With all the security and identification requirements for passengers nowdays, the health authorities must be able to identify them and should contact them rather than extending an invitation.

We cannot assume the aircraft itself did not become contaminated. on 10/13. That contaminated aircraft was taken out of service on 10/15. What is the status of the passengers who boarded the aircraft on 10/14?

[This poster has been suspended.]

joelwiley
joel wiley 3
Thus adversely affecting the CEO's productivity bonus?
How many flights, how many cities, how many passengers to take the virus to a public venue near you?
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 1
So...."WE" know the most logical step to take. Why does the government resist? Others did it right away to protect their citizens. I feel like I'm watching a cartoon.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Written by Franz Kafka. . .
canuck44
canuck44 1
Unfortunately, like it or not, we are part of the cartoon,
genethemarine
Gene spanos 1
It's more like germ warfare.
You really need a strong agent to wipe out
the potential ebola germ infested planes here.
No wonder the airfares have dropped....
raleedy
ALLAN LEEDY 1
It'll be nice to have one relatively clean passenger cabin for a change.
VisApp
Dave Mills 1
Perhaps someone already posted the plane is N220FR - the sharklet plane with "Finn the Shark" (go figgur). Dunno whether to have a "Jaws" moment or "Law & Order"/Ice-T moment.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
I wonder how many people flew on the plane before they got it there to clean it, and did the crew that transported it there wear any protective gear?
preacher1
preacher1 1
I think I heard on the National News this morning that one of the crew sets had been given 21 paid days off but don't know which crew. I think it was the one that flew it from CLE to DEN
usad
usad 1
How many Tom Clancy fans see a bit of "Rainbow Six" similarities here in the potential of virus expansion? Jack Ryan was going through this very thing in 1998!
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
Try Executive Orders for the progression of Ebola a Biowarefare agent.
Then again contrast the response in fiction to what is happening now- it's more like Camu's "The Plague"
kwu20001
kev wu 1
http://www.9news.com/story/local/2014/01/01/17313885/?storyid=17313885
ATJensen
A T Jensen 1
I feel for Frontier and the loss of utilization. The CDC is about as effective with this as FEMA was with hurricane Katrina. It was barely a week ago when CDC leader Dr. Tom Frieden stated "zero chance of contracting on an airplane." That was apparently based on the assumption that no U.S.-Ebola vector existed, based on the faulty assumption that the guy who died didn't lie. Also before the CDC (anonymously) didn't prohibit air travel of the exposed nurse with symptoms. And speaking of FEMA's boss, DHS, how about sending 2% of the 160,000 hazmat suits in their possession to the poor troops who've been sent to Africa with only gloves and masks?

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