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Novedades y titulares1959 Air Jordan "Low Flyers Club" Card

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1959 Air Jordan "Low Flyers Club" Card

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Going through old boxes, I found this card that apparently certifies that my dad flew 1000 ft below sea level, signed by the captain of his Air Jordan flight. Pretty cool. (www.dropbox.com) Más...

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joelwiley
joel wiley 10
My, how times change. How many people read the headline and 'sneaker' and 'Nike' popped up first?
WALLACE24
WALLACE24 4
Some people have tried to fly that low in the US.
That is a cool piece.
BenKFIT
Ben Lillie 2
I like how you earn the right to ask, "how low can you get...and still fly?"
Really neat. Unfortunately, airlines have taken the fun out of flying nowadays.
Moviela
Ric Wernicke 2
That is a cool family artifact. I love that it was typed! Very formal. Very fun.
conmanflyer
connor oslie 2
ok, now alot of photos are trash when people post them on here, but that is pretty freakn cool!
ldoord
David Lepard 2
Very Cool....... Certainly one to frame and keep.
vasilm83
Matthew Vasil 2
That's really cool. I didn't realize that a place that low even existed. I had to look it up. It gets down to -1388 feet. Crazy!!
n111ma
n111ma 2
I too experinced the thrill of flying below sea level over the Dead Sea. It was back in the 80's...in a Cessna172...with an EL AL pilot friend of mine. I recall the altimeter looking very strange dipping below zero feet MSL. I was never issued a card!
MACGSO
MACGSO 0
Actually, you can't place all the blame on the airlines. The regulatory atmosphere worldwide has forced airlines to spend untold billions of dollars filling out incomprehensibly huge amounts of paperwork to show "compliance" with with the myriad of always complex, often vague, and frequently contradictory regulations that have been generated in the last several decades, all in the name of safety. No wonder airlines no longer feel they can afford to do things to help their passengers enjoy their flight!
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Doesn't it seem as if you do *anything* at all, you are in violation of some law, regulation, or rule- and if you do nothing, you are in violation of others?
Borkti
George Hunt 2
There were a number of factors that got us started on the road to heavy regulation. Back in the day (1956) there was a collision over the Grand Canyon that caused 128 deaths. The air traffic control system was not continuous as it is today. There were large parts of the country that had no radar coverage. Both aircraft were "off airways" and were IFR, but operating on "see and avoid" with no assistance from ATC. Both aircraft captains were talking only to their respective company headquarters when they collided, and had taken off from LAX only three minutes apart. More at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_Grand_Canyon_mid-air_collision. That collision was the first civilian collision that caused more than one hundred deaths.

Second was the fact that the FAA was created as a result of this collision. The first head of the FAA was a retired Army Air Force general appointed as the Administrator. He was Elwood R. Quesada, a three star general. Given his background you can imagine that he designed the ATC system that followed the creation of the FAA to be as tightly controlled as the one that the AAF used in Europe to fly 1000 plane bombing raids into Germany during the 1944 - 1945 effort. The resulting regs were modeled on the AAF's IMHO. Given the present tightness of the medical and other regs (personal experience speaking here) this collision and the aftermath are at least part of the reason that the regulatory climate is so restrictive.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Thanks George. You'd think he was serious about safety. My comment on 'violation' was more general and not specifically aimee at FAA. G'day.
batmanrr
Devin Battley 1
Back in 1994 I delivered some new Harley-Davidsons to King Hussian of Jordan. One day we got to take a trip to the Dead Sea on one of his French made military helicopters. As we flew on the Jordanian side of the Dead Sea the pilot pointed out our 1000 feet below sea level flight. I don't have a card but I have the experience!
mikejulietbravo
Mike Braum 1
If they dished out cards like "Passenger on first coast - to - coast Dreamliner" (or probably,more likely ".... first Dreamliner that didn't leak fuel or catch fire") passengers might just find something to enjoy in modern day airtravel. LOL
grinch59
Gene Nowak 1
Sounds like a version of the "Turtle Club" from that same era.
CurtKrehbiel
Curt Krehbiel 0
The card states that he is "entitled" to fly below 1,000 feet below sea level. It does not say that he actually did so.